Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Asaf Bartov]

http://aubreymcfato.com/2013/01/15/how-to-exploit-academics/ is a brief and
amusing analogy to what the academic publishing racket is like.  It's
particularly poignant in that it really is the case because academics put
up with it, and for no other reason.

(of course, for them to stop putting up with it, a significant minority
would have to lay their careers, or existing reputations, on the line.
 Hence the inertia.)

   A.



On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

> Nikola Smolenski, 15/01/2013 09:59:
>
>> On 15/01/13 09:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely
>>> NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone
>>> should consider joining.
>>> For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of
>>> memorial about Aaron.
>>>
>>
>> I'd just like to remind that while people who liberate documents do
>> violate JSTOR's TOS, people who subsequently access the documents have
>> never agreed to the TOS and are not bound by it, so everything should be
>> perfectly legal for them.
>>
>
> Sure, thanks for reminding. That's why we were able to share on
> archive.org the JSTOR PD Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society
> of London shared by gmaxwell, a year ago:  philosophicaltransactions
> >
>
> Nemo
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Nikola Smolenski, 15/01/2013 09:59:

On 15/01/13 09:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely
NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone
should consider joining.
For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of
memorial about Aaron.


I'd just like to remind that while people who liberate documents do
violate JSTOR's TOS, people who subsequently access the documents have
never agreed to the TOS and are not bound by it, so everything should be
perfectly legal for them.


Sure, thanks for reminding. That's why we were able to share on 
archive.org the JSTOR PD Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society 
of London shared by gmaxwell, a year ago: 



Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Nikola Smolenski]

On 15/01/13 09:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

David Gerard, 15/01/2013 09:30:

On 15 January 2013 08:26, Andrea Zanni  wrote:

* the folks at archiveteam set up this:
http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It
is not properly legal, read it all.


Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the
papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently
made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user
does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.


I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely
NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone
should consider joining.
For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of
memorial about Aaron.


I'd just like to remind that while people who liberate documents do 
violate JSTOR's TOS, people who subsequently access the documents have 
never agreed to the TOS and are not bound by it, so everything should be 
perfectly legal for them.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

David Gerard, 15/01/2013 09:30:

On 15 January 2013 08:26, Andrea Zanni  wrote:


* the folks at archiveteam set up this: http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It
is not properly legal, read it all.



Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the
papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently
made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user
does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.


I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely 
NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone 
should consider joining.
For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of 
memorial about Aaron.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Andrea Zanni]

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM, David Gerard  wrote:

> Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the
> papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently
> made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user
> does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.
>

Thanks for clarifying this, I actually thought so, but wasn't sure.

Aubrey
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[David Gerard]

On 15 January 2013 08:26, Andrea Zanni  wrote:

> * the folks at archiveteam set up this: http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It
> is not properly legal, read it all.


Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the
papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently
made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user
does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Andrea Zanni]

I'm sorry, let me a pedant librarian:

* the topic of Access to research has been mainly referred to with the term
Open Access. You will find tons of material with that name.

* we have a Wikimedian in Residence for Open Access, Daniel Mietchen.

* *Open Access and the divide between “mainstream” and “peripheral” science* is
a great essay by Guédon (underlines some social drawbacks of the current
publishing system), one of the best I read. You can find it here:
http://eprints.rclis.org/12156

* *Reinventing discovery* is a great 2011 book from Michael Nielsen, it
speaks about Open Access and also crowdsourcing in escience. Very
interesting.

* the folks at archiveteam set up this: http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It
is not properly legal, read it all.

* if you want to publish in/read a OA journal, find it here:
http://www.doaj.org

As for us, the Wikimedia movement, we can definetely do more. It is just a
matter of tactics, but we want this, so make it happen.

Aubrey



On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Etienne Beaule wrote:

> There is also Access2Research <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Access2Research > about free
> research
> articles in the Us.
>
>
> On 2013-01-14 21:06, "Everton Zanella Alvarenga" <
> ezalvare...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't
> > progress that much from what it could be.
> >
> > We have the Busapest Open Access Initiative since 2002
> > . We can find
> > videos of professor Jean-Claude Guédon, one of the person who wrote
> > this initiative one decade ago, explaining in details the logics
> > behind all this.
> >
> > The publish (on closed journals) or perish still reigns in the
> > academia, so it is very important we explain the importance of
> > knowledge to be free for every single person we meet. Still a lot to
> > do.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Richard Symonds
> >  wrote:
> >> Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight
> and my
> >> excitement got the better of me.
> >>
> >> This is why I don't work in communications!
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Etienne Beaule]

There is also Access2Research <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Access2Research > about free research
articles in the Us.


On 2013-01-14 21:06, "Everton Zanella Alvarenga" 
wrote:

> Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't
> progress that much from what it could be.
> 
> We have the Busapest Open Access Initiative since 2002
> . We can find
> videos of professor Jean-Claude Guédon, one of the person who wrote
> this initiative one decade ago, explaining in details the logics
> behind all this.
> 
> The publish (on closed journals) or perish still reigns in the
> academia, so it is very important we explain the importance of
> knowledge to be free for every single person we meet. Still a lot to
> do.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Richard Symonds
>  wrote:
>> Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight and my
>> excitement got the better of me.
>> 
>> This is why I don't work in communications!
> 



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

[Everton Zanella Alvarenga]

Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't
progress that much from what it could be.

We have the Busapest Open Access Initiative since 2002
. We can find
videos of professor Jean-Claude Guédon, one of the person who wrote
this initiative one decade ago, explaining in details the logics
behind all this.

The publish (on closed journals) or perish still reigns in the
academia, so it is very important we explain the importance of
knowledge to be free for every single person we meet. Still a lot to
do.

Tom

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Richard Symonds
 wrote:
> Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight and my
> excitement got the better of me.
>
> This is why I don't work in communications!


-- 
Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom)
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more
useful than a life spent doing nothing."

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