Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this
There are other types of periodicity besides those of chemical characteristics, Nevertheless it is not clear what periodicity might be displayed by economic data, except possibly in share prices etc, but those do not appear to be relevant to the subject. Cheers, Peter - Original Message - From: "geni" To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this On 19 June 2013 08:56, Alex Peek wrote: All that i believe is that the world needs an economic period table. As a chemist I beg to differ. I mean how is valency meant to work? What is the economic analogue of a d orbital? Periodicity in general seems rather weak. Metals vs non metals doesn't make much sense in an economic context. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this
Thanks Jane for the response. I'll contact Wikidata and see how my data can be incorporated. The thing about Wikidata is that its goal to be a very expansive semantic database to support all other Wikipedia projects. I do support Wikidata. But the whole point of my project is create a short, simple model to display economic statistics. This is to support the economic community. I will make a list of articles using the [[outline]] feature. That seems like the best idea. Geni, i see what you mean. I'm not correct to call it the periodic table of economics (no periods involved in my model). I have somebody from the World Bank helping me out on this project also. He said he would do the article for the Bahamas, Haiti and Bolivia. Another student said he would work on Greece. I am have this project listed for volunteers at the London School of Economics. I also contacted the newly created Volcker Alliance. They have not gotten back to me. Once I finish the top ten economies I'm going to print them all out and send it in the mail to the Economist. I will do this project alone, but it would be nice to have some volunteers. On 19 June 2013 01:29, geni wrote: > On 19 June 2013 08:56, Alex Peek wrote: > > > All that i believe is that the world needs an economic period table. > > > > > As a chemist I beg to differ. I mean how is valency meant to work? What is > the economic analogue of a d orbital? Periodicity in general seems rather > weak. Metals vs non metals doesn't make much sense in an economic context. > > -- > geni > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this
On 19 June 2013 08:56, Alex Peek wrote: > All that i believe is that the world needs an economic period table. > > As a chemist I beg to differ. I mean how is valency meant to work? What is the economic analogue of a d orbital? Periodicity in general seems rather weak. Metals vs non metals doesn't make much sense in an economic context. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Hi Alex, I sense some frustration here. I think what you are doing is brave and needed, and you could probably use some help. The pages on economics and economics policy are some of the most neglected on Wikipedia (that and plastics and ..., but let's not go into a whole list of neglected topics, please folks) . I think your chances of finding like-minded economics-oriented Wikipedians quite small, but sending random cries for help periodically to this list will propably not help you find those people. Your main obstacle to success is your lack of knowledge about how Wikipedia works. As Lydia politely pointed out, you have not even tried to find out how your data could be included in WikiData, where it could potentially be used by all projects in all languages. As I see it, you have through your research located the data for several countries. This is all good. Each source of data needs to be defined on Wikipedia somewhere as an authority on that country's economic data. So first you need a list of economic data holders per country. Next these need to go on WikiData as list holders, and next, the data can be filled in property fields per country municipality (or whatever granularity of the data you are looking for). The data can be aggregated or you can just use the list holder data at each level. You cannot, however, just type in values of data without naming the sources. That would qualify as original research, which is a no-no on Wikipedia. Hope it helps, Jane 2013/6/19, Alex Peek : > All that i believe is that the world needs an economic period table. > > > On 18 June 2013 23:42, geni wrote: > >> On 18 June 2013 18:38, Alex Peek wrote: >> >> > I demand that my project gets global attention. >> >> >> Well you've got British and German >> >> >> >> > I cannot emphasize how >> > important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable >> of >> > addressing our current problems (environmental destruction world >> > hunger, >> > etc.). >> >> >> Given the current size of nuclear stockpiles I'd suggest it has. >> >> >> > Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. >> >> >> Been tried. Didn't end well. >> >> >> > I feel >> > morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for >> > attention. >> > >> >> Would you like us to direct you to the nearest mountain? >> >> >> > My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday >> and >> > I will not shut up until they have food. >> > >> >> You might want to study the issue a bit more closely before talking about >> it. For example people tend to be dying of malnutrition more than >> starvation per se >> >> >> >> > I have listed below draft article that I have been working on. Please >> check >> > them out. >> > >> >> I'm not seeing what it adds to wikipedia or how it addresses the complex >> socio-political issues around modern food distribution. For example while >> the western world probably has the ability to end large scale malnutrition >> in north korea the deaths of 10 million or so people in Seoul during the >> opening stages of removing the kimn family from power make such actions >> undesirable. >> -- >> geni >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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All that i believe is that the world needs an economic period table. On 18 June 2013 23:42, geni wrote: > On 18 June 2013 18:38, Alex Peek wrote: > > > I demand that my project gets global attention. > > > Well you've got British and German > > > > > I cannot emphasize how > > important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable > of > > addressing our current problems (environmental destruction world hunger, > > etc.). > > > Given the current size of nuclear stockpiles I'd suggest it has. > > > > Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. > > > Been tried. Didn't end well. > > > > I feel > > morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention. > > > > Would you like us to direct you to the nearest mountain? > > > > My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday > and > > I will not shut up until they have food. > > > > You might want to study the issue a bit more closely before talking about > it. For example people tend to be dying of malnutrition more than > starvation per se > > > > > I have listed below draft article that I have been working on. Please > check > > them out. > > > > I'm not seeing what it adds to wikipedia or how it addresses the complex > socio-political issues around modern food distribution. For example while > the western world probably has the ability to end large scale malnutrition > in north korea the deaths of 10 million or so people in Seoul during the > opening stages of removing the kimn family from power make such actions > undesirable. > -- > geni > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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On 18 June 2013 18:38, Alex Peek wrote: > I demand that my project gets global attention. Well you've got British and German > I cannot emphasize how > important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of > addressing our current problems (environmental destruction world hunger, > etc.). Given the current size of nuclear stockpiles I'd suggest it has. > Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. Been tried. Didn't end well. > I feel > morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention. > Would you like us to direct you to the nearest mountain? > My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday and > I will not shut up until they have food. > You might want to study the issue a bit more closely before talking about it. For example people tend to be dying of malnutrition more than starvation per se > I have listed below draft article that I have been working on. Please check > them out. > I'm not seeing what it adds to wikipedia or how it addresses the complex socio-political issues around modern food distribution. For example while the western world probably has the ability to end large scale malnutrition in north korea the deaths of 10 million or so people in Seoul during the opening stages of removing the kimn family from power make such actions undesirable. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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My project does not aim to be an expansive database like Wikidata. The goal of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics readable to laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted to make a 'periodic table' for economics. I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of addressing our current problems (environmental destruction world hunger, etc.). Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. I feel morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention. My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday and I will not shut up until they have food. I have listed below draft article that I have been working on. Please check them out. Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map Countries ranked by 2011 GDP 1. United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States 2. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China 3. Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan 4. Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany 5. France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France 6. Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil 7. United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom 8. Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy 9. India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India 10. Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia On 18 June 2013 03:07, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Alex Peek wrote: > > I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using > > Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data. > > > > This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a > > different goal. > > Could you elaborate on this please? I'm not sure I understand the > difference in goal. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Community Communications for Technical Projects > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Obentrautstr. 72 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Alex Peek wrote: > I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using > Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data. > > This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a > different goal. Could you elaborate on this please? I'm not sure I understand the difference in goal. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Deryck, I re-read your message and i looked up the [[WP:outline]] feature. Looks interesting, thanks for showing me that. On 17 June 2013 12:07, Alex Peek wrote: > I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using > Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data. > > This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a > different goal. > > > On 17 June 2013 12:00, Deryck Chan wrote: > >> Wouldn't this fall within the scope of [[WP:Outlines]] already, and >> therefore doesn't need its sister project? Future developments of Wikidata >> will make it even easier for such articles on Wikipedia to be updated. >> >> On 17 June 2013 19:56, Alex Peek wrote: >> >> > Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map >> > >> > The goal of this project is to improve public understanding economic >> data >> > and serve public administration. >> > >> > It's time that we create a standardized model that everyone can >> understand >> > and relate to. Given the challenges that our world faces today, our >> > civilization must realize the economic reality that we live in. Global >> > warming, world hunger, education and unemployment are all economic >> issues >> > that require a new perspective. >> > >> > The voting public must be provided the materials to properly allocate >> > resources. We can end world hunger with foreign aid. We can create a >> modern >> > day renaissance by building schools around the world. We should put more >> > public money R&D into renewable energies and create a cheaper >> alternative. >> > The world must understand wake up to the reality. >> > >> > This format can be repeated for all 196 countries, every locality and >> city. >> > There can also be a standardized format for every company (model does >> not >> > exist yet). >> > >> > >> > Countries ranked by 2011 GDP >> > >> > 1. United States: >> > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States >> > >> > 2. China: >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China >> > >> > 3. Japan: >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan >> > >> > 4. Germany: >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany >> > >> > 5. France: >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France >> > >> > 6. Brazil: >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil >> > >> > 7. United Kingdom >> > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom >> > >> > 8. Italy >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy >> > >> > 9. India >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India >> > >> > 10. Russia >> > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia >> > ___ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data. This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a different goal. On 17 June 2013 12:00, Deryck Chan wrote: > Wouldn't this fall within the scope of [[WP:Outlines]] already, and > therefore doesn't need its sister project? Future developments of Wikidata > will make it even easier for such articles on Wikipedia to be updated. > > On 17 June 2013 19:56, Alex Peek wrote: > > > Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map > > > > The goal of this project is to improve public understanding economic data > > and serve public administration. > > > > It's time that we create a standardized model that everyone can > understand > > and relate to. Given the challenges that our world faces today, our > > civilization must realize the economic reality that we live in. Global > > warming, world hunger, education and unemployment are all economic issues > > that require a new perspective. > > > > The voting public must be provided the materials to properly allocate > > resources. We can end world hunger with foreign aid. We can create a > modern > > day renaissance by building schools around the world. We should put more > > public money R&D into renewable energies and create a cheaper > alternative. > > The world must understand wake up to the reality. > > > > This format can be repeated for all 196 countries, every locality and > city. > > There can also be a standardized format for every company (model does not > > exist yet). > > > > > > Countries ranked by 2011 GDP > > > > 1. United States: > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States > > > > 2. China: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China > > > > 3. Japan: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan > > > > 4. Germany: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany > > > > 5. France: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France > > > > 6. Brazil: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil > > > > 7. United Kingdom > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom > > > > 8. Italy > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy > > > > 9. India > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India > > > > 10. Russia > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia > > ___ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Wouldn't this fall within the scope of [[WP:Outlines]] already, and therefore doesn't need its sister project? Future developments of Wikidata will make it even easier for such articles on Wikipedia to be updated. On 17 June 2013 19:56, Alex Peek wrote: > Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map > > The goal of this project is to improve public understanding economic data > and serve public administration. > > It's time that we create a standardized model that everyone can understand > and relate to. Given the challenges that our world faces today, our > civilization must realize the economic reality that we live in. Global > warming, world hunger, education and unemployment are all economic issues > that require a new perspective. > > The voting public must be provided the materials to properly allocate > resources. We can end world hunger with foreign aid. We can create a modern > day renaissance by building schools around the world. We should put more > public money R&D into renewable energies and create a cheaper alternative. > The world must understand wake up to the reality. > > This format can be repeated for all 196 countries, every locality and city. > There can also be a standardized format for every company (model does not > exist yet). > > > Countries ranked by 2011 GDP > > 1. United States: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States > > 2. China: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China > > 3. Japan: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan > > 4. Germany: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany > > 5. France: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France > > 6. Brazil: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil > > 7. United Kingdom > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom > > 8. Italy > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy > > 9. India > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India > > 10. Russia > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map The goal of this project is to improve public understanding economic data and serve public administration. It's time that we create a standardized model that everyone can understand and relate to. Given the challenges that our world faces today, our civilization must realize the economic reality that we live in. Global warming, world hunger, education and unemployment are all economic issues that require a new perspective. The voting public must be provided the materials to properly allocate resources. We can end world hunger with foreign aid. We can create a modern day renaissance by building schools around the world. We should put more public money R&D into renewable energies and create a cheaper alternative. The world must understand wake up to the reality. This format can be repeated for all 196 countries, every locality and city. There can also be a standardized format for every company (model does not exist yet). Countries ranked by 2011 GDP 1. United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States 2. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China 3. Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan 4. Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany 5. France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France 6. Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil 7. United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom 8. Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy 9. India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India 10. Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
