Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is it time for a Global Username Policy that is similar to Global Rename Policy?

2021-03-26 Thread Xavi Aranda via Wikimedia-l 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is it time for a Global Username Policy that is similar to Global Rename Policy?

2021-03-26 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l 
 It's an old topic. I tried to discuss it in 2015 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alexmar983/sandbox#SUL_issues and also 
again at an informal after-meeting weeks ago.
First of all, there is no strong global management of username blacklist as 
people might imagine. Beyond the cases of username that might be offensive and 
blocked in one language, some platforms for example do not accept 
"institutional accounts" that are accepted on other ones, ad this is a big one. 
They should be probably unblocked on the log term

Also, dead users are handled differently.
Blocking policy for proxy are also different. 

I could go on and on but most of the problems are still there. 

Whatever, soon or later we will fix them. I suppose some people need their 
time... in some cases it does not matter anymore, you just select tolerant 
platforms and ignore the ones with more rigid or dysfunctional policies. 

It would be nice to accept that there is some work to do.

Alessandro
Il venerdì 26 marzo 2021, 10:35:09 CET, Vi to  ha 
scritto:  
 
 Username blacklist has already been global since 2015, see 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38939
Vito

Il giorno ven 26 mar 2021 alle ore 10:06 William Chan  ha 
scritto:

Hi,
I have observed that there is a global renaming policy but a global username 
policy is absent? As we all know that usernames are global following SUL, and 
literally the same username will be used across multiple wikis.
So, a very simple question is raised: shall there be a draft of the global 
username policies, considering usernames are now global?
Also, also due to SUL, it seems that username blacklists should be put at a 
global scale, or it may just be not logical as one may just escape one wiki's 
username blacklist through creating it at another project, and use SUL to 
circumvent such block.
I hope for broad input, considering this may mean a broad policy change, and 
what I have in my mind is just a very primary idea to install a Global Username 
Policy that acts similar to the current Global Rename Policy that is in 
enforcement.
P.S. I put it here before placing it on meta RFC is not to avoid circumvention 
but hope to seek more input instead of just bumping a very large policy change 
without any external input.
Regards,WilliamUser:1233___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is it time for a Global Username Policy that is similar to Global Rename Policy?

2021-03-26 Thread Vi to 
Username blacklist has already been global since 2015, see
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38939

Vito

Il giorno ven 26 mar 2021 alle ore 10:06 William Chan  ha
scritto:

> Hi,
>
> I have observed that there is a global renaming policy but a global
> username policy is absent? As we all know that usernames are global
> following SUL, and literally the same username will be used across multiple
> wikis.
>
> So, a very simple question is raised: shall there be a draft of the global
> username policies, considering usernames are now global?
>
> Also, also due to SUL, it seems that username blacklists should be put at
> a global scale, or it may just be not logical as one may just escape one
> wiki's username blacklist through creating it at another project, and use
> SUL to circumvent such block.
>
> I hope for broad input, considering this may mean a broad policy change,
> and what I have in my mind is just a very primary idea to install a Global
> Username Policy that acts similar to the current Global Rename Policy that
> is in enforcement.
>
> P.S. I put it here before placing it on meta RFC is not to avoid
> circumvention but hope to seek more input instead of just bumping a very
> large policy change without any external input.
>
> Regards,
> William
> User:1233
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[Wikimedia-l] Is it time for a Global Username Policy that is similar to Global Rename Policy?

2021-03-26 Thread William Chan 
Hi,

I have observed that there is a global renaming policy but a global
username policy is absent? As we all know that usernames are global
following SUL, and literally the same username will be used across multiple
wikis.

So, a very simple question is raised: shall there be a draft of the global
username policies, considering usernames are now global?

Also, also due to SUL, it seems that username blacklists should be put at a
global scale, or it may just be not logical as one may just escape one
wiki's username blacklist through creating it at another project, and use
SUL to circumvent such block.

I hope for broad input, considering this may mean a broad policy change,
and what I have in my mind is just a very primary idea to install a Global
Username Policy that acts similar to the current Global Rename Policy that
is in enforcement.

P.S. I put it here before placing it on meta RFC is not to avoid
circumvention but hope to seek more input instead of just bumping a very
large policy change without any external input.

Regards,
William
User:1233
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