Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Uganda

2014-02-10 Thread Florence Devouard

Great !

I forward the information to Erina.
Indeed, I saw that these two guys were key points fostering an increase 
of edits on the Luganda version. Erina should only be back in Uganda in 
a month, but sharing of information by email could be nice as well. How 
long are your ambassadors staying in Uganda ?


Flo

On 09/02/14 09:50, Jan Ainali wrote:

That is great news Florence!

We have two Wikipedia ambassadors in Uganda right now (they actually had a
workshop at the Makerere University yesterday). I will ask them to contact
Erina, it might be valuable if they could share their experiences face to
face.


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2014-02-09 9:40 GMT+01:00 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com:


Hello everyone

I am very happy to announce that we just hired our Wikipedian in Community
for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Uganda. Her name is Erina Mukuta
Muhame.


Born in 1988 in Jinga, Uganda, Erina Mukuta spent her first childhood
years in a small village called kilembe and later moved to Kampala. Erina
is married with Brian Muhame. She graduated with a Bachelor of Science in
Surveying from Makerere University. She has since worked with a number of
organizations including Ministry of Land Use and Housing and Uganda
Wildlife Authority as a Land Surveyor and a GIS Analyst respectively.

She will join the Wikimedia community under the user name Erinamukuta.

It would be great if some of you could welcome Erina on her talk page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erinamukuta

--

Cyriac and Erina will now head to Cap Town for a month, to receive some
training and start planning their activity in Ivory Coast and Uganda.

They will actually join two other people, from Ethiopia and Malawi who
will also be trained and will work within the Share Your Knowledge
framework.

More info about Kumusha here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News

Florence/Anthere


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Uganda

2014-02-10 Thread Jan Ainali
Unfortunatly they will go back to Sweden on Sunday (that part of the
project was only one month). However, our local project manager is still
left, and he has a IEG grant [1] from WMF to setup a Wikipedia Center in
Mbazzi which will continue during the year. They too should probably get in
touch with each other.

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Mbazzi_Village_writes_Wikipedia


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2014-02-10 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com:

 Great !

 I forward the information to Erina.
 Indeed, I saw that these two guys were key points fostering an increase of
 edits on the Luganda version. Erina should only be back in Uganda in a
 month, but sharing of information by email could be nice as well. How long
 are your ambassadors staying in Uganda ?

 Flo


 On 09/02/14 09:50, Jan Ainali wrote:

 That is great news Florence!

 We have two Wikipedia ambassadors in Uganda right now (they actually had a
 workshop at the Makerere University yesterday). I will ask them to contact
 Erina, it might be valuable if they could share their experiences face to
 face.


 *Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*

 Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/
 Huvudsida

 0729 - 67 29 48


 *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens
 samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.*
 Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se




 2014-02-09 9:40 GMT+01:00 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com:

  Hello everyone

 I am very happy to announce that we just hired our Wikipedian in
 Community
 for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Uganda. Her name is Erina Mukuta
 Muhame.


 Born in 1988 in Jinga, Uganda, Erina Mukuta spent her first childhood
 years in a small village called kilembe and later moved to Kampala. Erina
 is married with Brian Muhame. She graduated with a Bachelor of Science in
 Surveying from Makerere University. She has since worked with a number of
 organizations including Ministry of Land Use and Housing and Uganda
 Wildlife Authority as a Land Surveyor and a GIS Analyst respectively.

 She will join the Wikimedia community under the user name Erinamukuta.

 It would be great if some of you could welcome Erina on her talk page
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erinamukuta

 --

 Cyriac and Erina will now head to Cap Town for a month, to receive some
 training and start planning their activity in Ivory Coast and Uganda.

 They will actually join two other people, from Ethiopia and Malawi who
 will also be trained and will work within the Share Your Knowledge
 framework.

 More info about Kumusha here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
 wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News

 Florence/Anthere


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[Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Uganda

2014-02-09 Thread Florence Devouard

Hello everyone

I am very happy to announce that we just hired our Wikipedian in 
Community for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Uganda. Her name is 
Erina Mukuta Muhame.



Born in 1988 in Jinga, Uganda, Erina Mukuta spent her first childhood 
years in a small village called kilembe and later moved to Kampala. 
Erina is married with Brian Muhame. She graduated with a Bachelor of 
Science in Surveying from Makerere University. She has since worked with 
a number of organizations including Ministry of Land Use and Housing and 
Uganda Wildlife Authority as a Land Surveyor and a GIS Analyst respectively.


She will join the Wikimedia community under the user name Erinamukuta.

It would be great if some of you could welcome Erina on her talk page 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erinamukuta


--

Cyriac and Erina will now head to Cap Town for a month, to receive some 
training and start planning their activity in Ivory Coast and Uganda.


They will actually join two other people, from Ethiopia and Malawi who 
will also be trained and will work within the Share Your Knowledge 
framework.


More info about Kumusha here: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News


Florence/Anthere


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Uganda

2014-02-09 Thread Jan Ainali
That is great news Florence!

We have two Wikipedia ambassadors in Uganda right now (they actually had a
workshop at the Makerere University yesterday). I will ask them to contact
Erina, it might be valuable if they could share their experiences face to
face.


*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*

Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida
0729 - 67 29 48


*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens
samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.*
Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se



2014-02-09 9:40 GMT+01:00 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com:

 Hello everyone

 I am very happy to announce that we just hired our Wikipedian in Community
 for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Uganda. Her name is Erina Mukuta
 Muhame.


 Born in 1988 in Jinga, Uganda, Erina Mukuta spent her first childhood
 years in a small village called kilembe and later moved to Kampala. Erina
 is married with Brian Muhame. She graduated with a Bachelor of Science in
 Surveying from Makerere University. She has since worked with a number of
 organizations including Ministry of Land Use and Housing and Uganda
 Wildlife Authority as a Land Surveyor and a GIS Analyst respectively.

 She will join the Wikimedia community under the user name Erinamukuta.

 It would be great if some of you could welcome Erina on her talk page
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erinamukuta

 --

 Cyriac and Erina will now head to Cap Town for a month, to receive some
 training and start planning their activity in Ivory Coast and Uganda.

 They will actually join two other people, from Ethiopia and Malawi who
 will also be trained and will work within the Share Your Knowledge
 framework.

 More info about Kumusha here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
 wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News

 Florence/Anthere


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Ivory Coast

2014-02-01 Thread Samuel Klein
This is absolutely wonderful - the entire story as well as the project.
Best wishes to Cyriac Gbogou and the initiative.

Sam
On Jan 25, 2014 2:09 PM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello everyone

 I am very happy to announce that we have found a wonderful person to be
 our Wikipedian in Community for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Ivory
 Coast. His name is Cyriac Gbogou.

 Born on the 02nd of September 1980 in Kpada (Soubré) village located in
 the south west of the country and the capital of Ivorian cocoa, Cyriac
 Gbogou runs for years a part of the African continent with his parents as a
 student-resident respectively in Senegal, Togo, Mali and Congo-Brazzaville.
 He finally returned to Côte d'Ivoire in 2001 and decided to pursue graduate
 studies in computer science. He holds an engineering degree in Computer
 Science.

 He gets married in August 2009. In 2010, he discovers the world of Web
 2.0. That same year, Cyriac chooses to not follow his employer IBM which
 wanted to relocate its activities in Morocco because of the very sensitive
 period in Cote d'Ivoire. Loving risk and adventure, he stays to serve his
 country as volunteer in Akendewa (now former Secretary General). His
 passion for social networks has grown during the post-electoral crisis of
 2011 working with other actors in the Ivorian web projects such as
 Civsocial #, # Wonzomai who have saved lives with the Internet use [1].
 Cyriac is the Chairman of the Association des Blogueurs de Côte d'Ivoire
 (A.B.C.I)

 Since September 2012, Cyriac Gbogou is an independent consultant, a job he
 does with passion, as an advisor, speaker and trainer. He was named by his
 peers Village Chief of the Ivorian web community.
 You can also follow him on his blog where he speaks freely on topics:
 www.cyriacgbogou.ci

 Whilst Cyriac is not (yet) a wikipedian, he is quite knowledgeable with
 open source and related projects : he was involved in OSM Ivory Coast
 mapping and coordinating mapping party or was involved in the jerry project
 (http://youandjerrycan.org) including in the set up of Afripedia on a
 jerry server.

 More info about Kumusha here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
 wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News

 Cyriac will have about two weeks to gain some familiarity with Wikimedia
 projects before heading to Cap Town for a month, to receive some training
 and start planning his activity in Ivory Coast.

 It would be great if some of you could welcome him on his (still red) talk
 page :) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Cyriac_Gbogou

 Florence/Anthere


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[Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki: announcing new WiC in Ivory Coast

2014-01-25 Thread Florence Devouard

Hello everyone

I am very happy to announce that we have found a wonderful person to be 
our Wikipedian in Community for our Kumusha Takes Wiki project in Ivory 
Coast. His name is Cyriac Gbogou.


Born on the 02nd of September 1980 in Kpada (Soubré) village located in 
the south west of the country and the capital of Ivorian cocoa, Cyriac 
Gbogou runs for years a part of the African continent with his parents 
as a student-resident respectively in Senegal, Togo, Mali and 
Congo-Brazzaville. He finally returned to Côte d'Ivoire in 2001 and 
decided to pursue graduate studies in computer science. He holds an 
engineering degree in Computer Science.


He gets married in August 2009. In 2010, he discovers the world of Web 
2.0. That same year, Cyriac chooses to not follow his employer IBM which 
wanted to relocate its activities in Morocco because of the very 
sensitive period in Cote d’Ivoire. Loving risk and adventure, he stays 
to serve his country as volunteer in Akendewa (now former Secretary 
General). His passion for social networks has grown during the 
post-electoral crisis of 2011 working with other actors in the Ivorian 
web projects such as Civsocial #, # Wonzomai who have saved lives with 
the Internet use [1]. Cyriac is the Chairman of the Association des 
Blogueurs de Côte d'Ivoire (A.B.C.I)


Since September 2012, Cyriac Gbogou is an independent consultant, a job 
he does with passion, as an advisor, speaker and trainer. He was named 
by his peers Village Chief of the Ivorian web community.
You can also follow him on his blog where he speaks freely on topics: 
www.cyriacgbogou.ci


Whilst Cyriac is not (yet) a wikipedian, he is quite knowledgeable with 
open source and related projects : he was involved in OSM Ivory Coast 
mapping and coordinating mapping party or was involved in the jerry 
project (http://youandjerrycan.org) including in the set up of Afripedia 
on a jerry server.


More info about Kumusha here: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en#News


Cyriac will have about two weeks to gain some familiarity with Wikimedia 
projects before heading to Cap Town for a month, to receive some 
training and start planning his activity in Ivory Coast.


It would be great if some of you could welcome him on his (still red) 
talk page :) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Cyriac_Gbogou


Florence/Anthere


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[Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki project hires 2 Wikipedians for Uganda and Côte d'Ivoire

2013-11-28 Thread Florence Devouard
Please find below a link announcement for the hire of two Wikipedians in 
Community (*).


One candidate is meant to be working in Uganda whilst the other will be 
working in Ivory Coast. Positions are for one year 
:http://www.wikiafrica.net/call_for_wir_en/



If you know people/media associated to Uganda or Ivory Coast, please 
relay the call !


More info about Kumusha:
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/en (EN)
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki/fr (FR)


(*) After much thinking, we decided to name the people we are looking 
for, WiC as in Wikipedian in Community rather than Wikipedian in 
Residence as previously. Our reasoning was that in most cases, WiR are 
typically Wikipedians planted in institutional context (Museums, 
libraries etc.) whilst we wanted to avoid this situation and get us to 
focus on people or communities (already-existing or to-be-created). 
Hence the new name.


Thanks

Anthere


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-03 Thread Florence Devouard

Certainly a potential problem.
This said, having worked with both communication and touristic agencies, 
I *much* prefer working with touristic agencies.


The main problem with touristic agencies is the language they tend to 
use. They have an habit of adding flowers and honey in their text but 
the main thing to deal with is to make them realize the type of writing 
must be different. If the worker has been rather trained as a 
journalist, he gets the difference rather quickly once explained and can 
tone down.


The communication teams have different goals: they try to make bad 
information disappear, push good one, add irrelevant details... but the 
way they write text is quite similar to our. They have orders to make 
sure certain things are there and others are not, but often, they do not 
really care the way it is phrased. It is more sneaky and complex to deal 
with.


I prefer working with touristic-minded people.

 On 10/3/13 7:22 AM, Peter Southwood wrote:

You could do that, but we find that tourist agencies tend to
misrepresent their regions by misleading advertising. gross exageration
and vague descriptions. You may be lucky.
Cheers,
Peter
- Original Message - From: Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki



Nod

I was thinking that it could be an interesting idea to get in touch
with local touristic agencies because it is certainly of their
interest to make a little bit more information about their area
available.
I have a French friend for example, who is a geologist and living in a
nearby country, and propose those nature-related trecks. I think he
could give me a feedback on such an idea.

Flo

On 10/2/13 5:48 PM, Peter Southwood wrote:

Hi Florence,
No problems with OR for Wikivoyage, which is why I didnt ask...
This would be a great opportunity to fill in some of the blank spaces.
Perhaps the project could make use of some of the section headings used
in Wikivoyage to encourage contributors to provide the specific
information that would be useful to the project.  Not exclusively of
course, but it would make the information much more accessible for
re-use, and it might encourage the contributors if they see that their
work is appreciated by another project. We are particularly short of
good images for African destinations.
Cheers,
Peter

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anthe...@yahoo.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki



Hi Peter

Photo-upload, certainly as much as possible to Commons indeed. That
was part of the discussion indeed because the OF was interested in
funding a mobile application that would be super high simple to upload
photos (in particular with regards to licensing) but would also
provide simple tools within the application (such as cropping, light
balance and so on). But now that we have the Commons Mobile
Application, I think it not a priority.
With regards to licensing, I thought it funny that some people would
consider the current application as complex with regards to licenses
choice. When I first downloaded it and tested it, I was quite
horrified by the limited choices...
Of course, there will be some work to do around licensing issues (such
as a simple to read doc to explain IP rights and conditions in various
African countries).


With regards to text content, we already planned to have places to
host some of the content because I'm pretty sure some of it will not
fit in wikipedia with regards to its rules. Isla and I will probably
have differing views on this because she is used to working in an
artistic environment whilst I am primarily a rather pragmatic
engineer. Let me share some of the info we put on the proposal:

The geographical article about Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) is very
short and generic:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Géographie_de_la_Côte_d%27Ivoire
The English version is hardly better:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Ivory_Coast
A list of Ivory Coast communities has actually been created (see
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_communes_de_Côte_d%27Ivoire)
but most articles are hardly more than placeholders (see
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the French version and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the English version).

In the past 11 years I have been on Wikipedia, I have discovered that
one of the thing newbies love to contribute are articles related to
their near life-environment. In short, their village, their city,
their neighborhood. It is right now getting much tougher to suggest
newbies to fill up some data about their city when they live in France
or the US because a lot is already there.

But look out a few articles related to villages or cities in Ivory
Coast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboisso-Comoé
(navigate through the cities listed at the bottom). That's

[Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Florence Devouard

Dear friends

It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha 
Takes Wiki.


Kumusha Takes Wiki is a project that aims at activating communities 
across Africa to create and contribute freely-licensed information, 
texts, images and media about their communities (villages, townships, 
suburbs, inner cities, etc). It will use community journalism to gather 
community-relevant information on heritage, culture, notable persons, 
geographical features, among other things. It will give each community 
an online presence that is 'owned' by the community, provide information 
that can be pulled into Wikipedia, Wikimedia projects or OpenStreetMap 
databases, and it hopes to add immeasurably to the understanding of 
Africa to every human being on the planet (from the people in the 
village to the person in New York, Mumbai or Milan). This project gives 
a public voice to communities across Africa, empowering them to share 
their own histories and, through training, to acquire valuable and 
transferable skills.


The project was designed by Isla (South Africa) and I (France), with the 
support of Iolenda (Italy) (yea, three wikiwomens !)


Without going much into details (see links below), let's say that this 
project will involve Wikipedians in Residence in two African countries 
(Ivory Coast and Uganda), training in South Africa, local events in the 
two above listed countries and a big photographic contest involving the 
entire African continent.
More information here: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki (available in French 
and English)
For those unaware, the official languages of Uganda are English and 
Swahili, whilst the official language of Ivory Coast is French. Our 
project being bilingual is not a bug, it's a feature :)


I should probably outline that our goal is not so much about getting 
african content in Wikipedia but more about outreach and awareness in 
the field.
As such, the Wikipedians in Residence will not so much focus on getting 
in touch and establishing partnerships with institutions in big cities 
so that content may be freed and added to our projects (see the current 
wikipedia description of a WiR: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_Residence).
Our Residence will be the Kumusha (a Shona term meaning the place 
where you come from). Our WiR will rather try to activate the local 
communities to help them discover our projects and share their heritage 
with us. As such, the events are more likely to take place in little 
villages, suburbs, shantytowns, camps, agricultural communities, than in 
big cities. Participants are more likely to be teenagers with cellphones 
than middle age men in suits. Data collected is perhaps more likely to 
be geographical and social related data about a little city than high 
level politics.


The project is financially supported by the Orange Foundation (France) 
for Ivory Coast and Uganda... starting 1st of October !
A good part of the original submission made last spring is available 
here for those interested : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Activate_Africa_(Orange_Foundation)


I am very glad to have the opportunity to work on that project :) It is 
a long way from my presentation back in Wikimania 2005 (Wikimedia 
projects in the developing world:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania05/Presentation-FD1)
As for Isla, she is involved in the WikiAfrica project 
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiAfrica_Cameroon) through the Africa 
Centre, and some of you met her at Wikimania Hong Kong where she lead a 
panel about Activating Africa 
(https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Activating_Africa).


Our twitter handle is @KumushaWiki

You are naturally welcome to comment, criticize, relay, participate, 
support and copy :)


Anthere









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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Cristian Consonni
2013/10/2 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com:
 The project was designed by Isla (South Africa) and I (France), with the
 support of Iolenda (Italy) (yea, three wikiwomens !)

The correct spelling of her name is Iolanda (with an i and an a) ^_^

C

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Peter Southwood

Hi Florence,
How much of the information is likely to be usable in Wikipedia? Will there 
be any requirement for reliable references, NPOV and NOR?

Will photo-uploads go to commons?
Regards,
Peter Southwood
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To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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Dear friends

It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha Takes 
Wiki.


Kumusha Takes Wiki is a project that aims at activating communities across 
Africa to create and contribute freely-licensed information, texts, images 
and media about their communities (villages, townships, suburbs, inner 
cities, etc). It will use community journalism to gather 
community-relevant information on heritage, culture, notable persons, 
geographical features, among other things. It will give each community an 
online presence that is 'owned' by the community, provide information that 
can be pulled into Wikipedia, Wikimedia projects or OpenStreetMap 
databases, and it hopes to add immeasurably to the understanding of Africa 
to every human being on the planet (from the people in the village to the 
person in New York, Mumbai or Milan). This project gives a public voice to 
communities across Africa, empowering them to share their own histories 
and, through training, to acquire valuable and transferable skills.


The project was designed by Isla (South Africa) and I (France), with the 
support of Iolenda (Italy) (yea, three wikiwomens !)


Without going much into details (see links below), let's say that this 
project will involve Wikipedians in Residence in two African countries 
(Ivory Coast and Uganda), training in South Africa, local events in the 
two above listed countries and a big photographic contest involving the 
entire African continent.
More information here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kumusha_Takes_Wiki 
(available in French and English)
For those unaware, the official languages of Uganda are English and 
Swahili, whilst the official language of Ivory Coast is French. Our 
project being bilingual is not a bug, it's a feature :)


I should probably outline that our goal is not so much about getting 
african content in Wikipedia but more about outreach and awareness in the 
field.
As such, the Wikipedians in Residence will not so much focus on getting in 
touch and establishing partnerships with institutions in big cities so 
that content may be freed and added to our projects (see the current 
wikipedia description of a WiR: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_Residence).
Our Residence will be the Kumusha (a Shona term meaning the place 
where you come from). Our WiR will rather try to activate the local 
communities to help them discover our projects and share their heritage 
with us. As such, the events are more likely to take place in little 
villages, suburbs, shantytowns, camps, agricultural communities, than in 
big cities. Participants are more likely to be teenagers with cellphones 
than middle age men in suits. Data collected is perhaps more likely to be 
geographical and social related data about a little city than high level 
politics.


The project is financially supported by the Orange Foundation (France) for 
Ivory Coast and Uganda... starting 1st of October !
A good part of the original submission made last spring is available here 
for those interested : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Activate_Africa_(Orange_Foundation)


I am very glad to have the opportunity to work on that project :) It is a 
long way from my presentation back in Wikimania 2005 (Wikimedia projects 
in the developing world:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania05/Presentation-FD1)
As for Isla, she is involved in the WikiAfrica project 
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiAfrica_Cameroon) through the Africa 
Centre, and some of you met her at Wikimania Hong Kong where she lead a 
panel about Activating Africa 
(https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Activating_Africa).


Our twitter handle is @KumushaWiki

You are naturally welcome to comment, criticize, relay, participate, 
support and copy :)


Anthere









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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Florence Devouard

On 10/2/13 3:29 PM, Cristian Consonni wrote:

2013/10/2 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com:

The project was designed by Isla (South Africa) and I (France), with the
support of Iolenda (Italy) (yea, three wikiwomens !)


The correct spelling of her name is Iolanda (with an i and an a) ^_^

C

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I did put an I, did I not ?

But right... a :)
Sorry

Flo





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Florence Devouard

Hi Peter

Photo-upload, certainly as much as possible to Commons indeed. That was 
part of the discussion indeed because the OF was interested in funding a 
mobile application that would be super high simple to upload photos (in 
particular with regards to licensing) but would also provide simple 
tools within the application (such as cropping, light balance and so 
on). But now that we have the Commons Mobile Application, I think it not 
a priority.
With regards to licensing, I thought it funny that some people would 
consider the current application as complex with regards to licenses 
choice. When I first downloaded it and tested it, I was quite horrified 
by the limited choices...
Of course, there will be some work to do around licensing issues (such 
as a simple to read doc to explain IP rights and conditions in various 
African countries).



With regards to text content, we already planned to have places to host 
some of the content because I'm pretty sure some of it will not fit in 
wikipedia with regards to its rules. Isla and I will probably have 
differing views on this because she is used to working in an artistic 
environment whilst I am primarily a rather pragmatic engineer. Let me 
share some of the info we put on the proposal:


The geographical article about Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) is very short 
and generic: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Géographie_de_la_Côte_d%27Ivoire
The English version is hardly better: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Ivory_Coast
A list of Ivory Coast communities has actually been created (see 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_communes_de_Côte_d%27Ivoire) but 
most articles are hardly more than placeholders (see 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the French version and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the English version).


In the past 11 years I have been on Wikipedia, I have discovered that 
one of the thing newbies love to contribute are articles related to 
their near life-environment. In short, their village, their city, their 
neighborhood. It is right now getting much tougher to suggest newbies to 
fill up some data about their city when they live in France or the US 
because a lot is already there.


But look out a few articles related to villages or cities in Ivory 
Coast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboisso-Comoé

(navigate through the cities listed at the bottom). That's MISERABLE.
Look at 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Populated_places_in_Lagunes to 
see how are described populated places... je.


I actually do not fear too much original research because if Wikipedia 
does not like it, we can put stuff elsewhere (including on non wikimedia 
sites). We can create a wikibook to host stories from a famous griot for 
example, or the coverage of an event on Wikinews. We can probably work 
on Wikivoyage. Everything is red there... 
https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Cote_d%27ivoire (and trust me if I tell 
you that this page is laughable... under the paragraph travel by 
boat/plane it is written There is a magnificent view, that's 
extraordinary


Yeah right :)

I actually do not fear NPOV too much because we can explain what it is 
about. It would be no different from any other outreach project, 
whatever the country !


What I could fear is the lack of sources. Indeed, there is a chance that 
if inhabitants improve the article about their village, they will have a 
hard time to prove by sources that there are about 500 inhabitants there 
and that the primary resource is this and that crop. We can rely on 
strong sources in France. Maybe not so in Ivory Coast.


At this point, it will be up to the community to decide if they prefer 
to keep totally empty articles such as now, or if they can tolerate a 
number of inhabitants with no source.


Best

Flo

On 10/2/13 4:23 PM, Peter Southwood wrote:

Hi Florence,
How much of the information is likely to be usable in Wikipedia? Will
there be any requirement for reliable references, NPOV and NOR?
Will photo-uploads go to commons?
Regards,
Peter Southwood
- Original Message - From: Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki



Dear friends

It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha
Takes Wiki.

Kumusha Takes Wiki is a project that aims at activating communities
across Africa to create and contribute freely-licensed information,
texts, images and media about their communities (villages, townships,
suburbs, inner cities, etc). It will use community journalism to
gather community-relevant information on heritage, culture, notable
persons, geographical features, among other things. It will give each
community an online presence that is 'owned' by the community, provide
information that can be pulled into Wikipedia, Wikimedia projects or
OpenStreetMap databases, and it hopes to add immeasurably to the
understanding of Africa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Peter Southwood

Hi Florence,
No problems with OR for Wikivoyage, which is why I didnt ask...
This would be a great opportunity to fill in some of the blank spaces. 
Perhaps the project could make use of some of the section headings used in 
Wikivoyage to encourage contributors to provide the specific information 
that would be useful to the project.  Not exclusively of course, but it 
would make the information much more accessible for re-use, and it might 
encourage the contributors if they see that their work is appreciated by 
another project. We are particularly short of good images for African 
destinations.

Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message - 
From: Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com

To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki



Hi Peter

Photo-upload, certainly as much as possible to Commons indeed. That was 
part of the discussion indeed because the OF was interested in funding a 
mobile application that would be super high simple to upload photos (in 
particular with regards to licensing) but would also provide simple tools 
within the application (such as cropping, light balance and so on). But 
now that we have the Commons Mobile Application, I think it not a 
priority.
With regards to licensing, I thought it funny that some people would 
consider the current application as complex with regards to licenses 
choice. When I first downloaded it and tested it, I was quite horrified by 
the limited choices...
Of course, there will be some work to do around licensing issues (such as 
a simple to read doc to explain IP rights and conditions in various 
African countries).



With regards to text content, we already planned to have places to host 
some of the content because I'm pretty sure some of it will not fit in 
wikipedia with regards to its rules. Isla and I will probably have 
differing views on this because she is used to working in an artistic 
environment whilst I am primarily a rather pragmatic engineer. Let me 
share some of the info we put on the proposal:


The geographical article about Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) is very short 
and generic: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Géographie_de_la_Côte_d%27Ivoire
The English version is hardly better: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Ivory_Coast
A list of Ivory Coast communities has actually been created (see 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_communes_de_Côte_d%27Ivoire) but 
most articles are hardly more than placeholders (see 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the French version and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the English version).


In the past 11 years I have been on Wikipedia, I have discovered that one 
of the thing newbies love to contribute are articles related to their near 
life-environment. In short, their village, their city, their neighborhood. 
It is right now getting much tougher to suggest newbies to fill up some 
data about their city when they live in France or the US because a lot is 
already there.


But look out a few articles related to villages or cities in Ivory Coast. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboisso-Comoé

(navigate through the cities listed at the bottom). That's MISERABLE.
Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Populated_places_in_Lagunes 
to see how are described populated places... je.


I actually do not fear too much original research because if Wikipedia 
does not like it, we can put stuff elsewhere (including on non wikimedia 
sites). We can create a wikibook to host stories from a famous griot for 
example, or the coverage of an event on Wikinews. We can probably work on 
Wikivoyage. Everything is red there... 
https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Cote_d%27ivoire (and trust me if I tell you 
that this page is laughable... under the paragraph travel by boat/plane 
it is written There is a magnificent view, that's extraordinary


Yeah right :)

I actually do not fear NPOV too much because we can explain what it is 
about. It would be no different from any other outreach project, whatever 
the country !


What I could fear is the lack of sources. Indeed, there is a chance that 
if inhabitants improve the article about their village, they will have a 
hard time to prove by sources that there are about 500 inhabitants there 
and that the primary resource is this and that crop. We can rely on strong 
sources in France. Maybe not so in Ivory Coast.


At this point, it will be up to the community to decide if they prefer to 
keep totally empty articles such as now, or if they can tolerate a number 
of inhabitants with no source.


Best

Flo

On 10/2/13 4:23 PM, Peter Southwood wrote:

Hi Florence,
How much of the information is likely to be usable in Wikipedia? Will
there be any requirement for reliable references, NPOV and NOR?
Will photo-uploads go to commons?
Regards,
Peter Southwood
- Original Message - From: Florence Devouard 
anthe...@yahoo.com

To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On 02.10.2013 14:03, Florence Devouard wrote:

Dear friends

It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha 
Takes Wiki.




Hi Florence,

you may want to look at WikiVoyage as well. There, we badly need 
reasonable info on Africa, and it can come without sources as soon as it 
is not obvious fairy tales. (It is a pity that Russia never had African 
colonies, so that the Russian Wikivoyage can not immediately benefit 
from the project).


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Laura Hale
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote:

 On 02.10.2013 14:03, Florence Devouard wrote:

 Dear friends

 It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha Takes
 Wiki.


 Hi Florence,

 you may want to look at WikiVoyage as well. There, we badly need
 reasonable info on Africa, and it can come without sources as soon as it is
 not obvious fairy tales. (It is a pity that Russia never had African
 colonies, so that the Russian Wikivoyage can not immediately benefit from
 the project).


It might also be worth looking at Wikinews.
https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Africa is our category on English
Wikinews. (
https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%90%D1%84%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0
is
Russian.)  https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/Wikinews has some
documents created on editing that might be useful for new contributors.
 Some one from Wikinews would probably be more than happy to customize
learning materials for the project to local needs.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Florence Devouard

Nod

I was thinking that it could be an interesting idea to get in touch with 
local touristic agencies because it is certainly of their interest to 
make a little bit more information about their area available.
I have a French friend for example, who is a geologist and living in a 
nearby country, and propose those nature-related trecks. I think he 
could give me a feedback on such an idea.


Flo

On 10/2/13 5:48 PM, Peter Southwood wrote:

Hi Florence,
No problems with OR for Wikivoyage, which is why I didnt ask...
This would be a great opportunity to fill in some of the blank spaces.
Perhaps the project could make use of some of the section headings used
in Wikivoyage to encourage contributors to provide the specific
information that would be useful to the project.  Not exclusively of
course, but it would make the information much more accessible for
re-use, and it might encourage the contributors if they see that their
work is appreciated by another project. We are particularly short of
good images for African destinations.
Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message - From: Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki



Hi Peter

Photo-upload, certainly as much as possible to Commons indeed. That
was part of the discussion indeed because the OF was interested in
funding a mobile application that would be super high simple to upload
photos (in particular with regards to licensing) but would also
provide simple tools within the application (such as cropping, light
balance and so on). But now that we have the Commons Mobile
Application, I think it not a priority.
With regards to licensing, I thought it funny that some people would
consider the current application as complex with regards to licenses
choice. When I first downloaded it and tested it, I was quite
horrified by the limited choices...
Of course, there will be some work to do around licensing issues (such
as a simple to read doc to explain IP rights and conditions in various
African countries).


With regards to text content, we already planned to have places to
host some of the content because I'm pretty sure some of it will not
fit in wikipedia with regards to its rules. Isla and I will probably
have differing views on this because she is used to working in an
artistic environment whilst I am primarily a rather pragmatic
engineer. Let me share some of the info we put on the proposal:

The geographical article about Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) is very
short and generic:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Géographie_de_la_Côte_d%27Ivoire
The English version is hardly better:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Ivory_Coast
A list of Ivory Coast communities has actually been created (see
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_communes_de_Côte_d%27Ivoire)
but most articles are hardly more than placeholders (see
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the French version and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the English version).

In the past 11 years I have been on Wikipedia, I have discovered that
one of the thing newbies love to contribute are articles related to
their near life-environment. In short, their village, their city,
their neighborhood. It is right now getting much tougher to suggest
newbies to fill up some data about their city when they live in France
or the US because a lot is already there.

But look out a few articles related to villages or cities in Ivory
Coast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboisso-Comoé
(navigate through the cities listed at the bottom). That's MISERABLE.
Look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Populated_places_in_Lagunes to
see how are described populated places... je.

I actually do not fear too much original research because if
Wikipedia does not like it, we can put stuff elsewhere (including on
non wikimedia sites). We can create a wikibook to host stories from a
famous griot for example, or the coverage of an event on Wikinews. We
can probably work on Wikivoyage. Everything is red there...
https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Cote_d%27ivoire (and trust me if I tell
you that this page is laughable... under the paragraph travel by
boat/plane it is written There is a magnificent view, that's
extraordinary

Yeah right :)

I actually do not fear NPOV too much because we can explain what it is
about. It would be no different from any other outreach project,
whatever the country !

What I could fear is the lack of sources. Indeed, there is a chance
that if inhabitants improve the article about their village, they will
have a hard time to prove by sources that there are about 500
inhabitants there and that the primary resource is this and that crop.
We can rely on strong sources in France. Maybe not so in Ivory Coast.

At this point, it will be up to the community to decide if they prefer
to keep totally empty articles such as now, or if they can tolerate a
number of inhabitants

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Florence Devouard

On 10/2/13 9:04 PM, Laura Hale wrote:

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote:


On 02.10.2013 14:03, Florence Devouard wrote:


Dear friends

It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha Takes
Wiki.



Hi Florence,

you may want to look at WikiVoyage as well. There, we badly need
reasonable info on Africa, and it can come without sources as soon as it is
not obvious fairy tales. (It is a pity that Russia never had African
colonies, so that the Russian Wikivoyage can not immediately benefit from
the project).



It might also be worth looking at Wikinews.
https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Africa is our category on English
Wikinews. (
https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%90%D1%84%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0
is
Russian.)  https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/Wikinews has some
documents created on editing that might be useful for new contributors.
  Some one from Wikinews would probably be more than happy to customize
learning materials for the project to local needs.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale




Great idea !

Thanks Laura !


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 On 10/2/13 9:04 PM, Laura Hale wrote:


 It might also be worth looking at Wikinews.
 [..]


documents created on editing that might be useful for new contributors.
   Some one from Wikinews would probably be more than happy to customize
 learning materials for the project to local needs.

 Sincerely,
 Laura Hale


 Great idea !


I think that would be setting people up for disappointment.  Consider the
high bar set out in Laura's own (recommended reading) essay on Wikinews:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/3/What_news_is_not

It is no less exacting than the norms of Wikipedia, and is not an obvious
companion to the much looser space Florence was describing in the original
post on this thread.

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Peter Southwood
You could do that, but we find that tourist agencies tend to misrepresent 
their regions by misleading advertising. gross exageration and vague 
descriptions. You may be lucky.

Cheers,
Peter
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Nod

I was thinking that it could be an interesting idea to get in touch with 
local touristic agencies because it is certainly of their interest to make 
a little bit more information about their area available.
I have a French friend for example, who is a geologist and living in a 
nearby country, and propose those nature-related trecks. I think he 
could give me a feedback on such an idea.


Flo

On 10/2/13 5:48 PM, Peter Southwood wrote:

Hi Florence,
No problems with OR for Wikivoyage, which is why I didnt ask...
This would be a great opportunity to fill in some of the blank spaces.
Perhaps the project could make use of some of the section headings used
in Wikivoyage to encourage contributors to provide the specific
information that would be useful to the project.  Not exclusively of
course, but it would make the information much more accessible for
re-use, and it might encourage the contributors if they see that their
work is appreciated by another project. We are particularly short of
good images for African destinations.
Cheers,
Peter

- Original Message - From: Florence Devouard 
anthe...@yahoo.com

To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki



Hi Peter

Photo-upload, certainly as much as possible to Commons indeed. That
was part of the discussion indeed because the OF was interested in
funding a mobile application that would be super high simple to upload
photos (in particular with regards to licensing) but would also
provide simple tools within the application (such as cropping, light
balance and so on). But now that we have the Commons Mobile
Application, I think it not a priority.
With regards to licensing, I thought it funny that some people would
consider the current application as complex with regards to licenses
choice. When I first downloaded it and tested it, I was quite
horrified by the limited choices...
Of course, there will be some work to do around licensing issues (such
as a simple to read doc to explain IP rights and conditions in various
African countries).


With regards to text content, we already planned to have places to
host some of the content because I'm pretty sure some of it will not
fit in wikipedia with regards to its rules. Isla and I will probably
have differing views on this because she is used to working in an
artistic environment whilst I am primarily a rather pragmatic
engineer. Let me share some of the info we put on the proposal:

The geographical article about Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) is very
short and generic:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Géographie_de_la_Côte_d%27Ivoire
The English version is hardly better:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Ivory_Coast
A list of Ivory Coast communities has actually been created (see
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_communes_de_Côte_d%27Ivoire)
but most articles are hardly more than placeholders (see
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the French version and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacanda for the English version).

In the past 11 years I have been on Wikipedia, I have discovered that
one of the thing newbies love to contribute are articles related to
their near life-environment. In short, their village, their city,
their neighborhood. It is right now getting much tougher to suggest
newbies to fill up some data about their city when they live in France
or the US because a lot is already there.

But look out a few articles related to villages or cities in Ivory
Coast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboisso-Comoé
(navigate through the cities listed at the bottom). That's MISERABLE.
Look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Populated_places_in_Lagunes to
see how are described populated places... je.

I actually do not fear too much original research because if
Wikipedia does not like it, we can put stuff elsewhere (including on
non wikimedia sites). We can create a wikibook to host stories from a
famous griot for example, or the coverage of an event on Wikinews. We
can probably work on Wikivoyage. Everything is red there...
https://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Cote_d%27ivoire (and trust me if I tell
you that this page is laughable... under the paragraph travel by
boat/plane it is written There is a magnificent view, that's
extraordinary

Yeah right :)

I actually do not fear NPOV too much because we can explain what it is
about. It would be no different from any other outreach project,
whatever the country !

What I could fear is the lack of sources. Indeed, there is a chance
that if inhabitants improve the article about