On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote
It's hard to credit that people are still pushing for the WMF to accept
Bitcoin payments after the worlds major venue for trading them, the Magic:
The Gathering Online Exchange, crashed and disappeared $500m. Obviously
not a
On 15 March 2014 13:31, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote
It's hard to credit that people are still pushing for the WMF to accept
Bitcoin payments after the worlds major venue for trading them, the Magic:
The Gathering
Hi everyone,
I thought it may be worth pointing out that this conversation has be
re-opened by Jimmy on
reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/201fa6/hello_from_jimmy_wales_of_wikipedia/http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/201fa6/hello_from_jimmy_wales_of_wikipedia/
On it he
Jimmy's already noted this is WRONG, but the erroneous Telegraph story
reads:
Wikipedia charity begins accepting Bitcoin donations after co-founder
Jimmy Wales set up a personal account to play around with digital
currency and was swamped with cash
sarcasm
Wow, we've made an entire 1.6k out of bitcoin? This totally seems like the
highest-value way to spend our time! Thanks, Bitcoin! I'm sure that the
value of these items won't wildly vary in short spaces of time based on
things like, oh, your propensity to have banking neophytes host your
Charles Gregory, 10/03/2014 14:26:
On it he states I'm planning to re-open the conversation with the
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Directors at our next meeting (and before, by
email) about whether Wikimedia should accept bitcoin. More info at the
thread itself.
What's the board of directors?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:
sarcasm
Wow, we've made an entire 1.6k out of bitcoin? This totally seems like the
highest-value way to spend our time! Thanks, Bitcoin! I'm sure that the
value of these items won't wildly vary in short spaces of time
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Steven Walling
steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
In general, I would personally like it if the WMF avoided accepting
bitcoin. Today, bitcoin isn't really a functioning currency of exchange --
it's actually used more as an investment tool to create wealth that
Thanks Erik for a well written overview.
Would it be possible for the WMF to give an estimate on what it would cost
to build and/or what the threshold of annual bitcoin donations would make
it worthwhile building. Someone might be interested in donating
specifically to have this built, or we
I will probably regret saying this[1] -- but the figure we like to throw
around here in fundraising tech is that a new payments gateway [2] is not
even worth considering unless it is likely to make us at least 500K USD a
year[3]. Or, in the case that it is not an immediate payoff, if it is
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote:
It is a significant undertaking to integrate a new gateway with our current
code (think several man months of time related to coding, code review,
donor services preparation, and testing; not including contract
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:17 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
As Peter just said, there is no risk if WMF converts bitcoin donations to
USD immediately.
Uh... except that because Bitcoin is not a regulated currency, it's value
has the potential to fluctuate wildly, and seems to
Andrew Bogott wrote:
So, we have a problem, and then we have an already-implemented
solution... what is left for anyone to do but dust off their hands and
go to lunch? If Bitpay has already solved the exact problem that we're
discussion, why would the foundation spend a nickel duplicating
Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
Andrew Bogott wrote:
So, we have a problem, and then we have an already-implemented
solution... what is left for anyone to do but dust off their hands and
go to lunch? If Bitpay has already solved the exact problem that we're
discussion, why would the foundation
Other forms of money we do not currently accept include gold coins, Yap
money, Tesco Clubcard Points, cowrie shells and cattle.
We could accept any of them in theory.
Though if anyone wants to donate a herd of cattle to Wikimedia UK please
could they contact the office in advance.
Chris
On 12
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 12/12/13 02:54, Nathan wrote:
Bitcoin isn't native currency for anyone, and anyone who wishes
to make a Bitcoin donation could certainly do so using a more standard
currency.
I would think that if anonymity is
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote:
* Our peers like EFF, and Internet archive accept it
To be totally honest, I think this is moot.
Support for bitcoin among these two organizations has hardly been a ringing
endorsement. In the past, EFF has rejected it
On Dec 13, 2013 5:55 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com
wrote:
* Our peers like EFF, and Internet archive accept it
To be totally honest, I think this is moot.
Support for bitcoin among these two
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Steven Walling
steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
naturally appreciates in value, like playing the stock market or buying
gold. Avoiding lots of risky investments is something our very competent
I do not plan to get into a perpetual debate just wanted to point
On 10 December 2013 23:13, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 11/12/13 06:58, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
I'm sure those reading this list can Google the topic themselves, so I
won't link to the many angry discussion that are taking place on the
interwebs right now;
I tried
[completely personal opinion]
To be totally, completely, honest I don't really want us to collect it...
and at this point it's mostly for personal reasons.
First off this isn't really a huge new push to get us to accept bitcoin,
they have been doing this ever 5-6 months in an organized fashion
I demand that the Wikimedia Foundation start accepting the following:
Litecoin
Namecoin
PPCoin
Feathercoin
Craftcoin
Quarkcoin
Freicoin
Devcoin
Terracoin
BBQCoin
Netcoin
Actually, scrap that, I've got an even better Ponzi scheme - sorry,
cryptocurrency: TomCoin.
And, best of all, if you start
It's *completely* wrong to call these things Ponzi schemes.
*Technically*, they're pump-and-dumps.
- d.
On 11 Dec 2013 10:59, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
I demand that the Wikimedia Foundation start accepting the following:
Litecoin
Namecoin
PPCoin
Feathercoin
Craftcoin
James Alexander wrote:
That said while I don't think the effort involved here is
tiny/insubstantial the real reason I don't want to do it is because, at
this point, it's seemed more and more like people wanted us to accept
bitcoin more as a political statement then anything else. That is not our
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:37 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Has there been any discussion about simply accepting Bitcoins but not
exchanging them?
snip
I don't have a strong opinion on whether WMF should or should not
accept Bitcoin donations. However, even if we were to accept them,
MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
It's funny, I just had a look at the wikimedia-l archive around January
2012... you know, that time when Wikipedia literally shut itself down as a
political statement. The following month, the Wikimedia Foundation
established a Community Advocacy
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:37 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Has there been any discussion about simply accepting Bitcoins but not
exchanging them?
snip
I don't have a strong opinion on whether WMF should or
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:
In my opinon this whole bitcoin debate is framed incorrectly. The question
is not if it should be accepted or not, but which parameters make any
currency or payment method acceptable.
If I had to name a few, I would say:
I can think of a few reasons why we should accept bitcoin:
* It's consistent with our leadership in internet technology
* Our peers like EFF, and Internet archive accept it
* It's secured using the same kinds of encryption we rely on to maintain
user privacy
* It permits donations from countries
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:10 AM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote:
MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
It's funny, I just had a look at the wikimedia-l archive around January
2012... you know, that time when Wikipedia literally shut itself down as
a
political statement. The
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:58:39 +0100
From: Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method
Message-ID:
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On 12/12/13 02:54, Nathan wrote:
Bitcoin isn't native currency for anyone, and anyone who wishes
to make a Bitcoin donation could certainly do so using a more standard
currency.
Well, this article from a year ago argues that bitcoin is safer for
donors than donating national currency:
Hi!
I'm sure that the WMF fundraising people are all aware of this, but this
isn't exactly a well-known issue, so please excuse this short introduction.
For a few months now, there has been quite a strong push from the
Bitcoin community to accept that currency as a donation method; the
issue
I'm a little skeptical about the charitable nature of Bitpay's offer to
hold funds for the WMF. It doesn't help that they refer to Wikipedia's
bank accounts, but in the absence of other evidence I suspect that Bitpay
is taking advantage of the volatility of Bitcoin exchange rates to profit
from
That assumes that [Bitpay] are, in fact, forwarding donations at all.
We have received some funds from them.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
That assumes that [Bitpay] are, in fact, forwarding donations at all.
We have received some funds from them.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
Thanks Matt. I'm still concerned that they
Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
Can you let us know the reasons behind the decision of not accepting
Bitcoin other than those mentioned on the FAQ page I linked?
Has there been any discussion about simply accepting Bitcoins but not
exchanging them? Off-hand, I can't see any potential harm if the
On 11/12/13 06:58, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
I'm sure those reading this list can Google the topic themselves, so I
won't link to the many angry discussion that are taking place on the
interwebs right now;
I tried Googling, including news and blog searches, and couldn't work
out what you are
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