Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
Andy Mabbett, 05/03/2013 21:08: On 5 March 2013 17:21, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see the deleted article, but I bet it was basically orphaned What were its page view stats? (I'm mobile. So can't easily check) I only checked a random month, but something like 150-200 per month it seems. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
On 05.03.2013 15:38, Andrew Gray wrote: On 5 March 2013 14:34, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I today discovered and nominated for deletion a large hoax article written in 2008 (Yuri Gadyukin on en.wp). Is this the longest ever living hoax we had on any project, or were there others that survived longer? 8 years is the record, apparently, on enwiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia Thanks Andrew, did not know about this page, very interesting. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
Yaroslav M. Blanter, 05/03/2013 17:07: 8 years is the record, apparently, on enwiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia Thanks Andrew, did not know about this page, very interesting. It's also telling that the longest hoax was about ancient history: it matches the popular belief that history is by far the biggest weakness of Wikipedia. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
On 5 March 2013 16:42, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: It's also telling that the longest hoax was about ancient history: it matches the popular belief that history is by far the biggest weakness of Wikipedia. Err thats not a popular belief. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
On 5 March 2013 17:21, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see the deleted article, but I bet it was basically orphaned What were its page view stats? (I'm mobile. So can't easily check) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
On 5 March 2013 16:42, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: It's also telling that the longest hoax was about ancient history: it matches the popular belief that history is by far the biggest weakness of Wikipedia. Our historical coverage is patchy, but I don't think it's our biggest weakness - art and culture probably are. That said, history (especially non-western history) is one of the bigger weaknesses of the internet as a whole, which reinforces the problem; it's much easier for something made up to stick if there's no easy online falsification of it. You can plausibly demonstrate that a contemporary band or ongoing war does not exist without too much trouble; if you draw a blank on a Renaissance painter, you're more likely to assume the digital resources are lacking. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk javascript:; -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 5 March 2013 16:42, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: It's also telling that the longest hoax was about ancient history: it matches the popular belief that history is by far the biggest weakness of Wikipedia. Our historical coverage is patchy, but I don't think it's our biggest weakness - art and culture probably are. That said, history (especially non-western history) is one of the bigger weaknesses of the internet as a whole, which reinforces the problem; it's much easier for something made up to stick if there's no easy online falsification of it. You can plausibly demonstrate that a contemporary band or ongoing war does not exist without too much trouble; if you draw a blank on a Renaissance painter, you're more likely to assume the digital resources are lacking. I believe that non-computer related engineering fields (mechanical engineering, structural engineering, civil engineering, materials science) are still large gaps as well, though better than 3 years ago. There's a large amount of raw material on the internet, and our job of forming coherent pictures out of it leaves something to be desired. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: It's also telling that the longest hoax was about ancient history: it matches the popular belief that history is by far the biggest weakness of Wikipedia. Our historical coverage is patchy, but I don't think it's our biggest weakness - art and culture probably are. I believe that non-computer related engineering fields (mechanical engineering, structural engineering, civil engineering, materials science) are still large gaps as well, though better than 3 years ago. Can't resist pasting this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/All_human_knowledge To work, comrades! :) A. -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
