Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

Hello, 2017-05-17 10:08 GMT-07:00 David Cuenca Tudela : > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask > donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? > > Can we offer anything else in this world than truth, free knowledge, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

One billion dollars, judiciously invested, is an income of present-day value around 20 to 30 million dollars a year for ever. That would buy any of the following * One reasonably expensive book per month for every one of the 30,000 most active content contributors for ever * 300 full-time

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 10:38 GMT-07:00 Amir E. Aharoni : > Heh, I remember Mr Wales asking what could the movement do with a million > dollars some time around 2006. That question was about a hundred million, actually:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:19 AM, FRED BAUDER wrote: > I think we could hire professional fact checkers and target articles that > have gotten off track. I don't think a great deal of money would be > necessary to set an example, and illustrate some of our notorious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros? Hi, > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask > donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? In many areas we lack good secondary sources

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

On 17 May 2017 at 18:08, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask > donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? Space program. A billion should get you a couple of dawn clones and if you focus on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > I love it, although I suspect that 1B wouldn't be enough. The industry of > for-profit academic publishing is probably worth much more than that, and > it won't give up easily. > > Not that I don't support

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

Hi, > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask > donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? In many areas we lack good secondary sources. Some times we don't even have any secondary sources. I did some work at the National Manufacture of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

We have built up an amazing amount of good will. When we raise money we spend some of that good will. Unless we have something worth spending it on, no need to do so. We already have a lot of professional fact checkers. I for example am a professional and check a lot of facts :-) Cochrane has also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

I love it, although I suspect that 1B wouldn't be enough. The industry of for-profit academic publishing is probably worth much more than that, and it won't give up easily. Not that I don't support the general idea, but the resistance will be hard. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

I am pretty sure we already have the Bible translated in all the languages (don't know because I didn't check). You inspired me though to think about the benefits of interlinking it down to the word level and how that might benefit Wikidata in achieving a level playing field in basic terminology

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

I saw a very interesting documentary about a South American country (Brazil? Argentina?) where they were already ignoring Western copyright law in order to free up collaboration in science. I have no idea what the legal repercussions are of doing something like that and from what I have seen on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

(I'm not sure I was understood correctly... I didn't mean translating the Bible to yet more languages, but translating an encyclopedia to more languages.) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

That is an interesting idea! Maybe we should be working on modelling the Bible better on Wikidata and cross-referencing it to dictionaries and all other religious texts. If it is so important for literacy, it may help unite efforts on labelling in Wikidata. I have no idea how many words are used

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

With that amount of money, we could probably put an end on closed science in less than a decade, and make open access and open science the new standard. There's already a lot of efforts going on, but incumbent publishers are much more rich and resourceful. Lobbying, advocacy, outreach could do a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

Heh, I remember Mr Wales asking what could the movement do with a million dollars some time around 2006. Is anything on the horizon? What could we do? Many things; one of them would be to get our act together and become a true leader in software and content localization. Currently we are proud

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

I think we could hire professional fact checkers and target articles that have gotten off track. I don't think a great deal of money would be necessary to set an example, and illustrate some of our notorious problems. In general more money, however, draws flies even better than shit. Fred

[Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? Do we have the guts to do so? Do we have the organizational capital to handle it? Or can we get there soon? Do we have the moral right to take a lead in the