[Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Hi,

Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation?

I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the
list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been
put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries
sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails (deny or
approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day.

-- 
John Vandenberg

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread Tim Starling
On 12/08/14 11:23, John Mark Vandenberg wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation?
 
 I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the
 list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been
 put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries
 sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails (deny or
 approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day.

Yes, according to the mailman admin interface, he's on moderation.
There are no pending moderator requests for wikimedia-l.

-- Tim Starling


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread Austin Hair
Yes, I temporarily placed Tomasz on moderation after his personal
attacks on the list. I apologize for apparently not making this clear
enough with my on-list warning.

I spent most of yesterday afternoon traveling home from Wikimania, and
have not seen any messages from him since. As the admin queue is
empty, I can only conclude that they were dealt with by another person
with access to the administrator interface.

Austin


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:23 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation?

 I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the
 list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been
 put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries
 sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails (deny or
 approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day.

 --
 John Vandenberg

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 Current working practices on lists include never being informed that
 it happened and never getting a reply to a polite request of why the
 moderation is in place, along with there being no possibility of
 appeal or timely review. More complex issues, such as moderators
 taking action on participants with whom they are actively involved in
 disputes, are not covered by any current guideline.

I do have to dispute this. While I did not explicitly say I have set
your moderation bit, and in retrospect should have, I believe that
there's a fairly obvious conclusion to be drawn when a list
administrator tells you that your behavior is unacceptable and your
next message is not immediately posted.

What I take the most issue with is that, contrary to what John has
said, I did not receive a single request—polite or otherwise—from
Tomasz directly, or (so far as gmail's search function can determine)
any inquiry at all regarding moderation prior to John's e-mail to the
list.

The matter was clarified within minutes of it being brought to my
attention. I don't know what, if not that, constitutes timely review
for you, Fae.

Austin

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread John Lewis
I'm an administrator for a few lists and personally I feel you are being
far far too generic in saying lists are not managed correctly. A process is
not broken here just a users understanding.  Document don't argue regarding
processes.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread Richard Ames
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On 12/08/14 20:23, John Mark Vandenberg wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation?

Yes.
 
 I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to
 the list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having
 been put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to
 queries sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails
 (deny or approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day.
 

I approved one.  I discarded one as it had no new content.

Regards, Richard.

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