[Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!
Hi, Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation? I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails (deny or approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!
On 12/08/14 11:23, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: Hi, Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation? I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails (deny or approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day. Yes, according to the mailman admin interface, he's on moderation. There are no pending moderator requests for wikimedia-l. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!
Yes, I temporarily placed Tomasz on moderation after his personal attacks on the list. I apologize for apparently not making this clear enough with my on-list warning. I spent most of yesterday afternoon traveling home from Wikimania, and have not seen any messages from him since. As the admin queue is empty, I can only conclude that they were dealt with by another person with access to the administrator interface. Austin On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:23 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation? I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails (deny or approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Current working practices on lists include never being informed that it happened and never getting a reply to a polite request of why the moderation is in place, along with there being no possibility of appeal or timely review. More complex issues, such as moderators taking action on participants with whom they are actively involved in disputes, are not covered by any current guideline. I do have to dispute this. While I did not explicitly say I have set your moderation bit, and in retrospect should have, I believe that there's a fairly obvious conclusion to be drawn when a list administrator tells you that your behavior is unacceptable and your next message is not immediately posted. What I take the most issue with is that, contrary to what John has said, I did not receive a single request—polite or otherwise—from Tomasz directly, or (so far as gmail's search function can determine) any inquiry at all regarding moderation prior to John's e-mail to the list. The matter was clarified within minutes of it being brought to my attention. I don't know what, if not that, constitutes timely review for you, Fae. Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!
I'm an administrator for a few lists and personally I feel you are being far far too generic in saying lists are not managed correctly. A process is not broken here just a users understanding. Document don't argue regarding processes. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/14 20:23, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: Hi, Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation? Yes. I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries sent directly, and havent actioned these moderated emails (deny or approve, doesnt matter) for almost a day. I approved one. I discarded one as it had no new content. Regards, Richard. - -- rich...@ames.id.au GPG key ID: 95C53E98 GPG key fingerprint: 4562 56B6 33CB CCB1 B9B7 529E 8BE5 076D 95C5 3E98 The greatest collection of shared knowledge in history. Help Wikipedia, participate now: https://en.wikipedia.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6gLyAAoJEIvlB22VxT6Y7DIP/RYBV0M2HFwk/rkV+g6g+iyK NXmSwVGT4E48OJk+aR3+0i297YpJHTclJ33CSzXWrBLGTdGJRZrCfvf1VAE551zk XblIpSa954lvHvih1UFoXqHwDUOBSgIe2T+VkoHDgo5GmogZ/e132SXdkTcLKhxy D+qFKea2KXh38jviPdoX1j8im0k/fdrMdXWs/YPc3QXMUfhXY50TgWBkEue9H8fA qCHBrHvx35AMQSCc7nOnadtCMBwloQ6f67j5qI4goMc9mAIKtCCNREFXQV2ijtPE 6PWniYGB8vTN7jL3ey65RmkFWX6Tm+KSt5tEi5wu2yOYI8Fc9+hoo7tAlEwyZr3+ GogqAvEOOU+gHYVNNizyhd7DFCwJH5l+1uJEbcLXtXS8O02af/isrydnRY0AaqHg KYgIeLSY27k44P3rMucSAEF9eqxAernS5VGWembct/fuusIvHUKJs4qgVUwSCQkC H0g/HlHu7m7L2SCWMqjF4BZLcEj1UAyQ5DRi+yKPmiWK5Ay/ikZBUJCquwTBqhiK hQ2GRxZ2yJXdQ8PXTYH/E4CDFDXzBYou9Sxj99MgQul1s1RaQGE9LxUEJ4Gtodgf 50GjKQmDt83G6l81E0js5sMo5CzjU6hFRBL0+JKGQQddFOlAQ9W199S53vwE0NtV IK8GmZ3vCU550zD8I8Ma =HuKD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
