Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

2014-02-12 Thread derfussi
How about the Wikivoyage association…. We have been existing for 7 years now, 
and applied for being recognized as a thematic organisation.






Von: Pharos
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Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
founding.

And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
started before the User Group category was in existence.

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions
 that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual
 plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
 status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same
 amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided
 that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years
 of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated
 entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).

 The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles

 There is also a FAQ on Meta:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ

 You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
 November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
 however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
 groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.

 Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions;
 however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
 meta talk page. Thank you!

 for the Board,
 Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

2014-02-12 Thread phoebe ayers
And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If a
group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go from
no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access to
grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big
change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but
that's not exactly always an easy process...
On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then
 case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.

 If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
 to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
 haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
 apply to be a user group.

 Phoebe
 On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
 volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
 currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
 recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
 founding.

 And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
 wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
 record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
 started before the User Group category was in existence.

 Thanks,
 Richard
 (User:Pharos)

 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
 decisions
  that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
 FDC/Annual
  plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
  status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
 same
  amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
 decided
  that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
 years
  of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
 incorporated
  entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
 
  The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
  https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
 
  There is also a FAQ on Meta:
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
 
  You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
  November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
  however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
  groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
 
  Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
 decisions;
  however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
  meta talk page. Thank you!
 
  for the Board,
  Phoebe
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[Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

2014-02-11 Thread Pharos
Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
founding.

And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
started before the User Group category was in existence.

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions
 that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual
 plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
 status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same
 amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided
 that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years
 of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated
 entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).

 The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles

 There is also a FAQ on Meta:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ

 You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
 November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
 however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
 groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.

 Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions;
 however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
 meta talk page. Thank you!

 for the Board,
 Phoebe
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