Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-21 Thread Jon Davies
Hi Nathan,

Re Q1 our legal advice was to set up a separate company in case anyone came
after QRcodes in some litigious fashion. This keeps it at arms length.

Q2 I am the only person associated with it at the moment - the AGM was a
rather solitary affair - but we need to add another director not least in
case I go under a bus.

Q3. There will be an agreement, it is being drafted.

Come into the office for a coffee and we could chat about it in more detail.

Jon Davies


On 20 December 2013 18:45, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Katherine, I just have a couple of questions if you have a moment...

 1) Why did WMUK choose to incorporate a new company to host the qrpedia IP?
 2) Who are the officers / trustees of Cultural Outreach Ltd and how are
 they chosen?
 3) Are there already or will there need to be cross agreements between WMF
 and other Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?

 Thanks,
 Nathan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-21 Thread Michael Maggs
Crossed wires I think. 

Jon was probably referring to the internal agreement between WMUK and its 
subsidiary Cultural Outreach whereby WMUK will pay the domain name renewal 
fees. That simply allows us to maintain a non trading status for Cultural 
Outreach which keeps legal fees to a minimum. 

QRpedia is and will remain free for use by anyone, without any need for an 
agreement or approval from WMUK.

Michael 

 On 21 Dec 2013, at 14:25, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
 On 21 December 2013 09:02, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 3) Are there already or will there need to be
 cross agreements between WMF and other
 Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?
 
 Q3. There will be an agreement, it is being drafted.
 
 This seems to imply that QRpedia will no longer be freely and openly
 available for anyone to use, as it has been from inception. I hope
 that's not the case, but would be grateful for assurances.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-21 Thread Jon Davies
Totally. In fact I think this string demonstrates a little of why this has
taken two years one month and 21 days! But with good faith we got there!!!


On 21 December 2013 15:29, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:

 Crossed wires I think.

 Jon was probably referring to the internal agreement between WMUK and its
 subsidiary Cultural Outreach whereby WMUK will pay the domain name renewal
 fees. That simply allows us to maintain a non trading status for Cultural
 Outreach which keeps legal fees to a minimum.

 QRpedia is and will remain free for use by anyone, without any need for an
 agreement or approval from WMUK.

 Michael

  On 21 Dec 2013, at 14:25, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 
  On 21 December 2013 09:02, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 
  3) Are there already or will there need to be
  cross agreements between WMF and other
  Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?
 
  Q3. There will be an agreement, it is being drafted.
 
  This seems to imply that QRpedia will no longer be freely and openly
  available for anyone to use, as it has been from inception. I hope
  that's not the case, but would be grateful for assurances.
 
  --
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  @pigsonthewing
  http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
Thanks for clarifying.

On 21 December 2013 15:29, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
 Crossed wires I think.

 Jon was probably referring to the internal agreement between WMUK and its 
 subsidiary Cultural Outreach whereby WMUK will pay the domain name renewal 
 fees. That simply allows us to maintain a non trading status for Cultural 
 Outreach which keeps legal fees to a minimum.

 QRpedia is and will remain free for use by anyone, without any need for an 
 agreement or approval from WMUK.

 Michael

 On 21 Dec 2013, at 14:25, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 21 December 2013 09:02, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 3) Are there already or will there need to be
 cross agreements between WMF and other
 Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?

 Q3. There will be an agreement, it is being drafted.

 This seems to imply that QRpedia will no longer be freely and openly
 available for anyone to use, as it has been from inception. I hope
 that's not the case, but would be grateful for assurances.

 --
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 @pigsonthewing
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[Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-20 Thread Katherine Bavage
Dear all,

In January it was announced that Wikimedia UK had reached an agreement with
Roger Bamkin and Terence Eden  to accept the donation of the intellectual
property rights of QRpedia to Wikimedia UK. WMUK are choosing to do this
via a company called Cultural Outreach limited.

This will mean that in future the site qrpedia.org will be managed by
Cultural Outreach Ltd and governed by the Wikimedia UK Website Privacy
Policy.

Both the domains qrpedia.org and qrwp.org were transferred to the registrar
maintained by Cultural Outreach Ltd as of today. This is a notice that the
server hosting for the sites will be changed at 22:00 on Sunday 22nd
December. Users should not notice any difference, however there is the very
slight chance that in some cases QR codes may not work for short periods
during the switch.

If you experience a problem you can report it by emailing
t...@wikimedia.org.uk or by logging a bug at the Wikimedia UK install of
bugzilla (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org.uk/)

*Katherine Bavage *
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-20 Thread Nathan
Thanks Katherine, I just have a couple of questions if you have a moment...

1) Why did WMUK choose to incorporate a new company to host the qrpedia IP?
2) Who are the officers / trustees of Cultural Outreach Ltd and how are
they chosen?
3) Are there already or will there need to be cross agreements between WMF
and other Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?

Thanks,
Nathan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 20 December 2013 18:45, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 2) Who are the officers / trustees of Cultural Outreach Ltd and how are
 they chosen?

See https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Cultural_Outreach_Limited

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