Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
Hi Lodewijk, I like the idea of having more opportunities to talk and to try out different approaches. That was the reason for Patricio and me to offer a Chapters Lunch Meeting on Sunday, where we want to talk about the role of Chapters Selected Board members, expectations, limitations, and the relationship we have. I read your suggestion like something similar, concentrating more on particular issues and diving somehow deeper into the subject. And yes, I would be glad to participate if it matches with my schedule. Alice. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi Phoebe, thanks for pointing to this! I see that this year we only have one hour of board QA. I have always seen a lot of value in these board discussions, especially when it can come to actually that: discussions. As there are several discussion sessions scheduled, without a specific topic, would you and perhaps a few other board members be willing to commit to use some of these sessions to dig a bit deeper into a few specific topics? For example, would there be three board members willing to have a round table discussion about transparency and openness at a board level? I'd be interested in participating in this one - but cannot take the lead on making it happen. Do let us know if this does get fixed during wikimania. Cannot make it 9 Aug 2-4 when there's another meeting, but open to other times. Best Bishakha 2013/7/29 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com Hi all, Every year at Wikimania the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees hosts a panel where they take questions from the audience on the work of the WMF and the Board. In past years the board has also taken questions via IRC. This year we'd also like to provide the opportunity to leave questions on a wiki page ahead of time: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Q%26A While there is only time to answer a few questions during the session itself, hopefully this will be a good way of getting questions from attendees as well as from those who can't make it. The board will also take questions from the audience at Wikimania, as time permits. Remember the Board doesn't deal directly with work on or problems on the projects, and does not have a direct hand in how the WMF operates day-to-day. Rather, the board thinks about the big picture, and gives direction on strategy for the WMF. You can find out more about what the board does (and does not do) here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_handbook best, phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
Hi Robert, This is a great question. Would you mind adding it to the wiki so we don't lose track of it? Short answer, not speaking for the board, bearing in mind that I missed the past year of board discussions: The board doesn't chose what technology to use but we do have end goals in mind: first and foremost making the wikis easier to edit (for everyone), and also better supporting non-desktop computer technologies (e.g. mobile). We've also had some philosophical discussions about the direction of the internet, and the web slowly turning less hands-on, with people's experiences online siloed into a few big sites -- and what that means for our projects which depend on the experience of saying yes, I can edit this thing. How do we make the projects attractive to new editors growing up in a facebook world? So I think we've certainly discussed the experience question in various ways, though not to the extent of sitting down with look feel/UI charts or anything specific. I think the board's role is to keep doing this, and also to help determine and approve additional specific strategic goals for tech, including for instance supporting community editing initiatives (like the wiki loves monuments app), accurately and beautifully supporting all language communities, etc. You are right that UI and rollouts will be significant for the WMF, the board the editing community for many months to come :) -- phoebe On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: Phoebe, I am wondering if you (or another board member) would elaborate a little on how you see the Board's role when it comes to the evolving technical development of WMF projects? WMF has articulated a medium- to long-term vision for Mediawiki that builds on projects like VisualEditor, Flow, Echo (notifications), Parsoid, etc. While I don't expect the Board to be in the business of choosing what technology to use, the WMF vision does seem to speak heavily to future changes in what the experience of editing Wikipedia (and other projects) will be like. More visual and mouse based, etc. Is that something the Board ever involves itself in? Given current plans, it seems likely that questions surrounding changes in user experience and the deployment of new technology will be among the most significant issues for the editor community. -Robert Rohde On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:31 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Every year at Wikimania the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees hosts a panel where they take questions from the audience on the work of the WMF and the Board. In past years the board has also taken questions via IRC. This year we'd also like to provide the opportunity to leave questions on a wiki page ahead of time: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Q%26A While there is only time to answer a few questions during the session itself, hopefully this will be a good way of getting questions from attendees as well as from those who can't make it. The board will also take questions from the audience at Wikimania, as time permits. Remember the Board doesn't deal directly with work on or problems on the projects, and does not have a direct hand in how the WMF operates day-to-day. Rather, the board thinks about the big picture, and gives direction on strategy for the WMF. You can find out more about what the board does (and does not do) here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_handbook best, phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:24 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, This is a great question. Would you mind adding it to the wiki so we don't lose track of it? snip I don't mind adding it, but I'm not sure where you want it to go? Also, should I copy your reply, too? -Robert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
Hi Phoebe, thanks for pointing to this! I see that this year we only have one hour of board QA. I have always seen a lot of value in these board discussions, especially when it can come to actually that: discussions. As there are several discussion sessions scheduled, without a specific topic, would you and perhaps a few other board members be willing to commit to use some of these sessions to dig a bit deeper into a few specific topics? For example, would there be three board members willing to have a round table discussion about transparency and openness at a board level? Or perhaps the technical strategy (at a board level)? If we could do that in somewhat smaller groups (max 50 people), maybe even parallel, I think we could finally engage in truly helpful and constructive discussions. It would of course require a neutral discussion facilitator each time, but I'm sure we'd be able to arrange that somehow? We could then flag those discussion topics during the QA even. Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/29 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com Hi all, Every year at Wikimania the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees hosts a panel where they take questions from the audience on the work of the WMF and the Board. In past years the board has also taken questions via IRC. This year we'd also like to provide the opportunity to leave questions on a wiki page ahead of time: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Q%26A While there is only time to answer a few questions during the session itself, hopefully this will be a good way of getting questions from attendees as well as from those who can't make it. The board will also take questions from the audience at Wikimania, as time permits. Remember the Board doesn't deal directly with work on or problems on the projects, and does not have a direct hand in how the WMF operates day-to-day. Rather, the board thinks about the big picture, and gives direction on strategy for the WMF. You can find out more about what the board does (and does not do) here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_handbook best, phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
Hi Lodewijk, Thanks for the idea! I can't commit right now that anyone will be able to do this (all the trustees have a busy schedule and are pulled in lots of different directions during Wikimania) but we might be able to schedule a session or two (though since the schedule is so packed with good sessions, it will be difficult to find a slot!) I will bring it up. Maybe we can figure out what topics people are most interested in discussing via the wiki. I'd be interested in a discussion about WMF strategy and planning for the future, personally. Also, everyone should feel free to say hello to any of the trustees during Wikimania, if you don't already know us :) best, Phoebe On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Hi Phoebe, thanks for pointing to this! I see that this year we only have one hour of board QA. I have always seen a lot of value in these board discussions, especially when it can come to actually that: discussions. As there are several discussion sessions scheduled, without a specific topic, would you and perhaps a few other board members be willing to commit to use some of these sessions to dig a bit deeper into a few specific topics? For example, would there be three board members willing to have a round table discussion about transparency and openness at a board level? Or perhaps the technical strategy (at a board level)? If we could do that in somewhat smaller groups (max 50 people), maybe even parallel, I think we could finally engage in truly helpful and constructive discussions. It would of course require a neutral discussion facilitator each time, but I'm sure we'd be able to arrange that somehow? We could then flag those discussion topics during the QA even. Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/29 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com Hi all, Every year at Wikimania the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees hosts a panel where they take questions from the audience on the work of the WMF and the Board. In past years the board has also taken questions via IRC. This year we'd also like to provide the opportunity to leave questions on a wiki page ahead of time: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Q%26A While there is only time to answer a few questions during the session itself, hopefully this will be a good way of getting questions from attendees as well as from those who can't make it. The board will also take questions from the audience at Wikimania, as time permits. Remember the Board doesn't deal directly with work on or problems on the projects, and does not have a direct hand in how the WMF operates day-to-day. Rather, the board thinks about the big picture, and gives direction on strategy for the WMF. You can find out more about what the board does (and does not do) here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_handbook best, phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
Phoebe, I am wondering if you (or another board member) would elaborate a little on how you see the Board's role when it comes to the evolving technical development of WMF projects? WMF has articulated a medium- to long-term vision for Mediawiki that builds on projects like VisualEditor, Flow, Echo (notifications), Parsoid, etc. While I don't expect the Board to be in the business of choosing what technology to use, the WMF vision does seem to speak heavily to future changes in what the experience of editing Wikipedia (and other projects) will be like. More visual and mouse based, etc. Is that something the Board ever involves itself in? Given current plans, it seems likely that questions surrounding changes in user experience and the deployment of new technology will be among the most significant issues for the editor community. -Robert Rohde On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:31 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Every year at Wikimania the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees hosts a panel where they take questions from the audience on the work of the WMF and the Board. In past years the board has also taken questions via IRC. This year we'd also like to provide the opportunity to leave questions on a wiki page ahead of time: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Q%26A While there is only time to answer a few questions during the session itself, hopefully this will be a good way of getting questions from attendees as well as from those who can't make it. The board will also take questions from the audience at Wikimania, as time permits. Remember the Board doesn't deal directly with work on or problems on the projects, and does not have a direct hand in how the WMF operates day-to-day. Rather, the board thinks about the big picture, and gives direction on strategy for the WMF. You can find out more about what the board does (and does not do) here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_handbook best, phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Hi Phoebe, thanks for pointing to this! I see that this year we only have one hour of board QA. I have always seen a lot of value in these board discussions, especially when it can come to actually that: discussions. As there are several discussion sessions scheduled, without a specific topic, would you and perhaps a few other board members be willing to commit to use some of these sessions to dig a bit deeper into a few specific topics? For example, would there be three board members willing to have a round table discussion about transparency and openness at a board level? I'd be interested in participating in this one - but cannot take the lead on making it happen. Do let us know if this does get fixed during wikimania. Cannot make it 9 Aug 2-4 when there's another meeting, but open to other times. Best Bishakha 2013/7/29 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com Hi all, Every year at Wikimania the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees hosts a panel where they take questions from the audience on the work of the WMF and the Board. In past years the board has also taken questions via IRC. This year we'd also like to provide the opportunity to leave questions on a wiki page ahead of time: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Q%26A While there is only time to answer a few questions during the session itself, hopefully this will be a good way of getting questions from attendees as well as from those who can't make it. The board will also take questions from the audience at Wikimania, as time permits. Remember the Board doesn't deal directly with work on or problems on the projects, and does not have a direct hand in how the WMF operates day-to-day. Rather, the board thinks about the big picture, and gives direction on strategy for the WMF. You can find out more about what the board does (and does not do) here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_handbook best, phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?
Hi all, Every year at Wikimania the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees hosts a panel where they take questions from the audience on the work of the WMF and the Board. In past years the board has also taken questions via IRC. This year we'd also like to provide the opportunity to leave questions on a wiki page ahead of time: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Q%26A While there is only time to answer a few questions during the session itself, hopefully this will be a good way of getting questions from attendees as well as from those who can't make it. The board will also take questions from the audience at Wikimania, as time permits. Remember the Board doesn't deal directly with work on or problems on the projects, and does not have a direct hand in how the WMF operates day-to-day. Rather, the board thinks about the big picture, and gives direction on strategy for the WMF. You can find out more about what the board does (and does not do) here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_handbook best, phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe