Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-13 Thread Brill Lyle
Personally I'm not a huge fan of the visual editor -- but during the
presentation it was sort of awesome how quickly the notes shifted into Wiki
Markup

Anything that onboards folks into using more Wiki Markup, I'm a fan of that.

But good to know this for going forward.

- Erika


*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* 
Secretary, Wikimedia NYC


On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Kevin Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Brill Lyle 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > 2. Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad
> which
> > resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It
> > allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal.
> >
>
> For those who aren't aware, it's now possible to bring etherpad native
> formatting (e.g. bold, bullet lists) into a wiki page. You just have to use
> etherpad's "Export to HTML" feature, and then paste that result into Visual
> Editor.
>
> If the formatting is heavy on headings, wiki format is probably better.
> Otherwise, native formatting tends to be easier to deal with during the
> meeting itself (e.g. indenting nested bullet lists, WYSIWYG bold, etc.).
>
> It's great that we now have both options. Thanks VE team!
>
> Kevin
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-12 Thread Kevin Smith
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Brill Lyle  wrote:

>
> 2. Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad which
> resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It
> allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal.
>

For those who aren't aware, it's now possible to bring etherpad native
formatting (e.g. bold, bullet lists) into a wiki page. You just have to use
etherpad's "Export to HTML" feature, and then paste that result into Visual
Editor.

If the formatting is heavy on headings, wiki format is probably better.
Otherwise, native formatting tends to be easier to deal with during the
meeting itself (e.g. indenting nested bullet lists, WYSIWYG bold, etc.).

It's great that we now have both options. Thanks VE team!

Kevin
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-12 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Brill Lyle  wrote:

> 1. The sound quality was fine from what I saw and heard. I was on a desktop
> computer using the Blue Jeans thing (which had the YouTube video playing)
> and IRC chat -- and etherpad

> […]

I listened in on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo
pointed to by Joseph Seddon (NB not a video of
https://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaFoundation), and the
sound quality isn't "fine" for me.  For benchmarking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCt1BwWE2gA is a broadcast
from another celestial body.

On YouTube there are videos of non-professionals explaining
how to comb one's hair or peel a potato that have far better
sound quality, and they neither have to convey complex con-
cepts that require the viewer to listen closely nor the
eight-digit resources to buy expensive equipment, but a
headset or a lapel microphone seems to make quite a differ-
ence.

Tim


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-12 Thread Brill Lyle
1. The sound quality was fine from what I saw and heard. I was on a desktop
computer using the Blue Jeans thing (which had the YouTube video playing)
and IRC chat -- and etherpad

2. Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad which
resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It
allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal. I was really happy
to see that and hope it can be a model going forward. I would suggest
having a "template" of information pre-filled out to facilitate the notes
going forward.

Having a timekeeper would probably necessitate having one person designated
to put time-stamps on main points. I think if there's consensus then
cooperatively this could be done? It seems like babysteps here -- having
transparent, detailed notes that are quickly turned around -- might be the
priority over the time-stamps but this is a logical and reasonable request,
I agree.

3. Agree on licensing default for published videos. Ideally the video
should be embedded on the Minutes page as a supporting resource.

An additional comment:

I'm new to both Wiki-l and learning more about the governance of WMF. I was
very happy with this meeting and the efforts made by Katherine to be
transparent and up front. However, I think this is a lot of pressure and
from my new perspective it is seeming to come down on one competent person.
I think this is a tough and somewhat problematic strategic position for any
one person to be in, and for any institution to rely upon. I hope that
there are more people who can take leadership roles at WMF who would share
this load. Assuming the consensus is for this approach to governance.

- Erika


*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* 
Secretary, Wikimedia NYC


On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> Thanks for the link. Handful of quick points:
>
> 1. The sound quality is poor, to a level where I find it quite hard to
> work out what is being said half the time especially as the speech is
> quite rapid. It would be worth investing in a bit of better audio kit
> for these videoed discussions. If the video is being captured
> remotely, better results might be possible by having a local capture,
> at least of the audio.
>
> 2. It would be great to have a tiny index as a text note on youtube at
> the time of publication so that, say, on an hour+ long meeting like
> this it would be possible to skip around the video to when new
> questions are addressed. Though the session notes are useful
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours/Video-based_session_notes
> >,
> there is no relationship to timing.
>
> 3. The video has been published on a standard youtube license. Can
> those that manage these videos apply a free license that would be
> allowed on Wikimedia Commons as a default please?
>
> As a side note, there was quite a few minutes of in-crowd banter at
> the start, an awkward drop-out mid-way for a couple of minutes and
> another award minute or two at the end where the meeting was being
> accidentally recorded to youtube after it ended. It might be good to
> edit these out of the published version considering it is a public
> record.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-12 Thread
Thanks for the link. Handful of quick points:

1. The sound quality is poor, to a level where I find it quite hard to
work out what is being said half the time especially as the speech is
quite rapid. It would be worth investing in a bit of better audio kit
for these videoed discussions. If the video is being captured
remotely, better results might be possible by having a local capture,
at least of the audio.

2. It would be great to have a tiny index as a text note on youtube at
the time of publication so that, say, on an hour+ long meeting like
this it would be possible to skip around the video to when new
questions are addressed. Though the session notes are useful
,
there is no relationship to timing.

3. The video has been published on a standard youtube license. Can
those that manage these videos apply a free license that would be
allowed on Wikimedia Commons as a default please?

As a side note, there was quite a few minutes of in-crowd banter at
the start, an awkward drop-out mid-way for a couple of minutes and
another award minute or two at the end where the meeting was being
accidentally recorded to youtube after it ended. It might be good to
edit these out of the published version considering it is a public
record.

Thanks,
Fae

On 12 May 2016 at 01:12, Joseph Seddon  wrote:
> A reminder that this is currently happening now:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo - WMF Executive Director Office
> Hours
>
> Regards
>
> Seddon
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gregory Varnum 
> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> A quick reminder that the first office hours with Wikimedia Foundation’s
>> interim Executive Director, Katherine Maher, is coming up in the next day
>> (roughly).
>>
>> Apologies for confusion on the time, here is the time for the first
>> session, being held via video:
>> Thursday, 12 May 2016 - 00:00-01:00 UTC | Wednesday, 11 May 2016 -
>> 17:00-18:00 PDT
>>
>> You are invited to ask questions and offer suggestions to Katherine on
>> this Meta-Wiki page (which also has additional information on the office
>> hours):
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours
>>
>> You can join us and ask questions during the session via Blue Jeans:
>> https://bluejeans.com/198076339
>>
>> The session will also be available for streaming on YouTube:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo
>>
>> We look forward to talking with folks soon!
>> -greg
>>
>> Translation notice - This original message is available for translation on
>> Meta-Wiki:
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours/Announcement
>>
>> ---
>> Gregory Varnum
>> Communications Strategist (Contractor)
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> gvar...@wikimedia.org
>>
>> > On May 4, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Katherine Maher 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > **Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join me for two upcoming
>> office
>> > hours, where I’ll answer community questions and share updates on the
>> > Foundation’s work.**
>> >
>> > It’s been a busy few weeks around the Wikimedia Foundation offices. We
>> > shared our 2016-2017 annual plan, finished our quarterly reviews, and
>> > attended Wikimedia Conference 2016 in Berlin with the Wikimedia
>> affiliates.
>> > [1]
>> >
>> > In Berlin, I had the chance to do one of my favorite things: sit with
>> > Wikimedians, listen, debate, and plan for the future. Of course, Berlin
>> is
>> > just one gathering, and there are thousands of other perspectives out
>> > there. I want to hear more of these perspectives, and so I’m looking
>> > forward to hosting two office hours over the coming weeks.
>> >
>> > We plan to hold a traditional office hours on IRC, and will also
>> experiment
>> > with a video Q We hope these different formats will make it easier for
>> > more people to participate using their preferred communications channels.
>> > We’ve chosen two different time zones, with the goal of reaching as many
>> > people as possible. They are as follows:
>> >
>> > *Video session*
>> > *This session will be recorded, and the video will be posted on
>> > Commons/Meta. Due to video conferencing limitations, we encourage advance
>> > questions.*
>> > Wednesday, 11 May 2016
>> > 00:00-1:00 UTC | 17:00-18:00 PDT [2]
>> >
>> > *IRC session*
>> > *This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting.[4] Like other
>> office
>> > hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office on Freenode.*
>> > Thursday, 26 May 2016
>> > 19:00-20:00 UTC | 12:00-13:00 PDT [3]
>> >
>> > We’re also collecting questions in advance for those who can’t make
>> either
>> > of those sessions. We’ve created a page on Meta where you can leave
>> > questions or comments, check the details on the location of each session:
>> >
>> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-11 Thread Joseph Seddon
A reminder that this is currently happening now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo - WMF Executive Director Office
Hours

Regards

Seddon

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gregory Varnum 
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> A quick reminder that the first office hours with Wikimedia Foundation’s
> interim Executive Director, Katherine Maher, is coming up in the next day
> (roughly).
>
> Apologies for confusion on the time, here is the time for the first
> session, being held via video:
> Thursday, 12 May 2016 - 00:00-01:00 UTC | Wednesday, 11 May 2016 -
> 17:00-18:00 PDT
>
> You are invited to ask questions and offer suggestions to Katherine on
> this Meta-Wiki page (which also has additional information on the office
> hours):
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours
>
> You can join us and ask questions during the session via Blue Jeans:
> https://bluejeans.com/198076339
>
> The session will also be available for streaming on YouTube:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo
>
> We look forward to talking with folks soon!
> -greg
>
> Translation notice - This original message is available for translation on
> Meta-Wiki:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours/Announcement
>
> ---
> Gregory Varnum
> Communications Strategist (Contractor)
> Wikimedia Foundation
> gvar...@wikimedia.org
>
> > On May 4, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Katherine Maher 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > **Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join me for two upcoming
> office
> > hours, where I’ll answer community questions and share updates on the
> > Foundation’s work.**
> >
> > It’s been a busy few weeks around the Wikimedia Foundation offices. We
> > shared our 2016-2017 annual plan, finished our quarterly reviews, and
> > attended Wikimedia Conference 2016 in Berlin with the Wikimedia
> affiliates.
> > [1]
> >
> > In Berlin, I had the chance to do one of my favorite things: sit with
> > Wikimedians, listen, debate, and plan for the future. Of course, Berlin
> is
> > just one gathering, and there are thousands of other perspectives out
> > there. I want to hear more of these perspectives, and so I’m looking
> > forward to hosting two office hours over the coming weeks.
> >
> > We plan to hold a traditional office hours on IRC, and will also
> experiment
> > with a video Q We hope these different formats will make it easier for
> > more people to participate using their preferred communications channels.
> > We’ve chosen two different time zones, with the goal of reaching as many
> > people as possible. They are as follows:
> >
> > *Video session*
> > *This session will be recorded, and the video will be posted on
> > Commons/Meta. Due to video conferencing limitations, we encourage advance
> > questions.*
> > Wednesday, 11 May 2016
> > 00:00-1:00 UTC | 17:00-18:00 PDT [2]
> >
> > *IRC session*
> > *This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting.[4] Like other
> office
> > hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office on Freenode.*
> > Thursday, 26 May 2016
> > 19:00-20:00 UTC | 12:00-13:00 PDT [3]
> >
> > We’re also collecting questions in advance for those who can’t make
> either
> > of those sessions. We’ve created a page on Meta where you can leave
> > questions or comments, check the details on the location of each session:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours
> >
> > Please share this invitation with others you think may be interested!
> >
> > I look forward to speaking soon,
> > Katherine
> >
> > Translation notice - This message is available for translation on
> > Meta-Wiki:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours/Announcement
> >
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016
> > [2] Time converter link:
> >
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=0=00=0=12=05=2016
> > [3] Time converter link:
> >
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19=00=0=26=05=2016
> > [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings
> >
> >
> > --
> > Katherine Maher
> >
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > 149 New Montgomery Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >
> > +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635
> > +1 (415) 712 4873
> > kma...@wikimedia.org
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[Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-10 Thread Gregory Varnum
Greetings,

A quick reminder that the first office hours with Wikimedia Foundation’s 
interim Executive Director, Katherine Maher, is coming up in the next day 
(roughly).

Apologies for confusion on the time, here is the time for the first session, 
being held via video:
Thursday, 12 May 2016 - 00:00-01:00 UTC | Wednesday, 11 May 2016 - 17:00-18:00 
PDT

You are invited to ask questions and offer suggestions to Katherine on this 
Meta-Wiki page (which also has additional information on the office hours):  
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours

You can join us and ask questions during the session via Blue Jeans:  
https://bluejeans.com/198076339

The session will also be available for streaming on YouTube:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo

We look forward to talking with folks soon!
-greg

Translation notice - This original message is available for translation on 
Meta-Wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours/Announcement

---
Gregory Varnum
Communications Strategist (Contractor)
Wikimedia Foundation
gvar...@wikimedia.org

> On May 4, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Katherine Maher  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> **Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join me for two upcoming office
> hours, where I’ll answer community questions and share updates on the
> Foundation’s work.**
> 
> It’s been a busy few weeks around the Wikimedia Foundation offices. We
> shared our 2016-2017 annual plan, finished our quarterly reviews, and
> attended Wikimedia Conference 2016 in Berlin with the Wikimedia affiliates.
> [1]
> 
> In Berlin, I had the chance to do one of my favorite things: sit with
> Wikimedians, listen, debate, and plan for the future. Of course, Berlin is
> just one gathering, and there are thousands of other perspectives out
> there. I want to hear more of these perspectives, and so I’m looking
> forward to hosting two office hours over the coming weeks.
> 
> We plan to hold a traditional office hours on IRC, and will also experiment
> with a video Q We hope these different formats will make it easier for
> more people to participate using their preferred communications channels.
> We’ve chosen two different time zones, with the goal of reaching as many
> people as possible. They are as follows:
> 
> *Video session*
> *This session will be recorded, and the video will be posted on
> Commons/Meta. Due to video conferencing limitations, we encourage advance
> questions.*
> Wednesday, 11 May 2016
> 00:00-1:00 UTC | 17:00-18:00 PDT [2]
> 
> *IRC session*
> *This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting.[4] Like other office
> hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office on Freenode.*
> Thursday, 26 May 2016
> 19:00-20:00 UTC | 12:00-13:00 PDT [3]
> 
> We’re also collecting questions in advance for those who can’t make either
> of those sessions. We’ve created a page on Meta where you can leave
> questions or comments, check the details on the location of each session:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours
> 
> Please share this invitation with others you think may be interested!
> 
> I look forward to speaking soon,
> Katherine
> 
> Translation notice - This message is available for translation on
> Meta-Wiki:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours/Announcement
> 
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016
> [2] Time converter link:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=0=00=0=12=05=2016
> [3] Time converter link:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19=00=0=26=05=2016
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings
> 
> 
> -- 
> Katherine Maher
> 
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 149 New Montgomery Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> 
> +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635
> +1 (415) 712 4873
> kma...@wikimedia.org
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