[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

2021-09-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you Mario! I'll ask further there. S On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:29 PM Mario Gómez wrote: > You might want to discuss this topic at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikiproject:Antispam > > This page is watched by many people working against UPE in various > projects. Many are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

2021-09-08 Thread Mario Gómez
You might want to discuss this topic at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikiproject:Antispam This page is watched by many people working against UPE in various projects. Many are familiar with large-scale UPE operations. Some of us already work with tools for automated and semi-automated

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

2021-09-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Hi Steven :) Good points. I agree with Adam that this is a major energy and enthusiasm drain for eitors. As to how we could start with data collection: * Monitor the market. a) Work with groups that are in the market and completely transparent about their work to maintain a sense of rates

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

2021-09-07 Thread Adam Wight
Hi SJ, Just passing along a link shared @Waltercolor during another discussion about paid editing, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Mois_anti-pub I completely agree that we need more ways to identify and reverse undisclosed paid editing. For a moment, the WMF's Scoring Platform team

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

2021-09-07 Thread Steven Walling
Given that it’s completely trivial to make new pseudonymous accounts how would you propose even remotely accurate data collection to measure paid editing? If we are worried about the impact of paid editors on the integrity of content, we are much better served investing even more in efforts to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

2021-09-07 Thread Samuel Klein
Aha -- I was pointed to en:wp's List of paid editing companies . (thanks!) This is a great resource and deserves to be better linked. The page is semi-active - 4 additions in the last month, including the Olaf case. I've