[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-12 Thread Leo Z
I do agree, and I do think legally biding election could be a better way. Although, 1) Membership is not required to vote in WMF’s election. It is a requirement for Wiki Project Med’s election. Editors may want to vote while keeping their presence anonymous. 2) WMF and most non-profits are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-12 Thread James Heilman
Not sure paying membership is a requirement for direct elections. Wiki Project Med Foundation has elections but free membership (one just needs to be an active editor in good standing or otherwise involved). James On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 5:46 PM Leo Z wrote: > > Wikimedia Foundation is not a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sat, 11 Sept 2021 at 16:45, Leo Z wrote: > Hope this clear some of your confusion. Which confusion would that be? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-11 Thread Leo Z
Wikimedia Foundation is not a membership-based organization, you don’t pay a membership dues like those of many professional organizations. Henceforth, it is theoretically cannot be an election which would not be legally enforceable without registered voting members, that’s paying members with

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-11 Thread Lucas Werkmeister
Wasn’t this mentioned in the results announcement [1]? > == Waiting for the Board’s appointment == > > While these candidates have been ranked through the community vote, > they are not yet appointed to the Board of Trustees. They still need > to pass a successful background check and meet the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 7 Sept 2021 at 19:16, Tito Dutta wrote: > My good wishes to all the newly selected board members of Wikimedia > Foundation. AIUI, they are not yet board members, nor are they guaranteed to be. The Trust's bylaws[1] state, at Article IV, Section 3(C) (my **emphasis**): (iii) The

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-11 Thread Adam Wight
It's remarkable that we elected 2/4 women and 3/4 people whose mother tongue is not English, given the dominance of male and English-speaking wiki contributors in surveys. It's even more surprising that we accomplished this given that only 4 of the 20 nominated candidates are women, the odds of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-10 Thread Ashwin Baindur - User AshLin
The voting system (single transferable vote) chosen reflects the electorate's choice fairly. In this case, the primarily Global North electorate prefers to elect Global North candidates, so the election system has faithfully expressed the voting outcome of that behaviour. So, I do not blame the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-10 Thread Butch Bustria
We better set a new criteria that board candidates for 2022 and 2023 must reside outside the 28th parallel north and 42nd meridian east. Kind regards, Butch Bustria On Thu, 9 Sep 2021, 7:22 pm Mario Gómez, wrote: > Fully agree with Mike. > > Also, rather than focusing on how different voting

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-10 Thread James Heilman
Congrats to the 4 winners. Looking forward to you taking on your roles on the board :-) James On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 2:52 PM Ad Huikeshoven wrote: > > For starters, I would like to thank outgoing board members DocJames and > Raystorm for their service to the community by dedicating a lot of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-09 Thread Ad Huikeshoven
For starters, I would like to thank outgoing board members DocJames and Raystorm for their service to the community by dedicating a lot of time on board meetings, processing tons of mail, and so on. Mario, you are right. An increase in the number of seats will increase the diversity given a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-09 Thread Mario Gómez
Fully agree with Mike. Also, rather than focusing on how different voting schemes would have affected some candidates to be one position up or down, wider diversity and representativity could be achieved by just electing 8 seats from community elections. On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 7:47 PM Mike Peel

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Mohamed ElGohary
Slightly unrelated. My personal unscientific analysis is that some (or many) Wikimedia communities lack governance awareness. I don't know what should be done about that. Best, Gohary (ircpresident) On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 1:18 AM Gnangarra wrote: > The failure wasnt in the election system, the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Gnangarra
The failure wasnt in the election system, the failure was in the lack of candidates having the global presence that gives people the confidence to vote for them. The question is how do we raise the global identities of more candidates and how do we counter the benefits of 20 years of EU/NA

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Chris Keating
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 8:40 PM Chris Keating wrote: > I too am disappointed (but not surprised) that STV had almost no effect at >> all on the outcome of this election >> > > This may be true, but if it's true, it was only true very narrowly. The > margin between the 4th and 5th placed

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Mike Peel
I don't get these kinds of arguments. I'm pretty much equally very active on enwiki + Wikidata + Commons - which should I chose as my 'resident' project? Most bytes (Commons), most edits (Wikidata), longest editing time (enwiki) - or something else? Or language for that matter - most of my

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Anupam Dutta
Sorry I meant /* Votes from residents and workers*/ On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:06 Anupam Dutta wrote: > Congratulations to the winners and the participants also ! > > Further to the ongoing discussions, my idea is as follows : > > In this Wikimedia land, a person is the resident of the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Anupam Dutta
Congratulations to the winners and the participants also ! Further to the ongoing discussions, my idea is as follows : In this Wikimedia land, a person is the resident of the project s/he/they have most contributed No arguments Now the person can chose to be a worker in 'n' number of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Anders Wennersten
A very good set of candidates and a good work done organizing the election. Elaine, also a very strong candidate was, with a small margin, just outside. Could she be made a official "reserve" candidate? In the election 2015 Danny resigned very soon after election, and the election committee

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Butch Bustria
Congratulations to the 4 winners. I saw that the STV system unveiled how the 4th and 5th positions (appears to be from a G7 country and a non G7 country) had switched. I am interested to know from which sector/s or Wikimedia project brought the switch of those two positions (starting from the 8th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Alice Wiegand
Thanks, Jackie! That is indeed different from what I understood and I’m glad about the change :-) Alice. > Am 07.09.2021 um 23:42 schrieb Jackie Koerner : > > Hi Alice, > > Thanks for asking! The way we are intending "contended" is that it was the > election everyone was waiting for. :)

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Jackie Koerner
Hi Alice, Thanks for asking! The way we are intending "contended" is that it was the election everyone was waiting for. :) It was "pushed for" by the community for more than a year and now we gladly announce: it happened and here are the results! Best, Jackie On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 4:29 PM

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Alice Wiegand
Hi all, congrats to the elected Board members. It’s great to see people stepping up and taking responsibility, especially in times where leadership is needed. Jackie, may I ask for some elaboration on the subject of this thread? You say „most contended … election“ and I wonder what that means.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread ktc
Hi, "(Is it still an option for the Board to do this and appoint Eliane, Mike, Pascale and Ivan and then skip next year's planned election?)" Unfortunately, that's not how STV works. Given a different number of seats to be filled would had produced a different quota, which would have resulted

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Samuel Klein
Congratulations to Rosie, Victoria, Dariusz and Lorenzo! This system offers a helpful way of seeing whether there is a natural break in the election results. In this case there was a growing gap between 5th and 6th place results as the process resolved. Looking at the gap between (1 + 4), (4 +

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Chris Keating
> > I too am disappointed (but not surprised) that STV had almost no effect at > all on the outcome of this election > This may be true, but if it's true, it was only true very narrowly. The margin between the 4th and 5th placed candidates was 12.27 votes in a situation where 1,188 were needed to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Risker
Thank you to the team who did so much work to make this election happen. I think it was really important to trial the STV system with a large community participation to see whether it would yield a more diverse outcome. I too am disappointed (but not surprised) that STV had almost no effect at

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Tito Dutta
Hello, Thanks for the announcement. I was expecting/hopeful to see a little more diverse result (continent/region etc,) Anyway, thanks to the organising team for your work. My good wishes to all the newly selected board members of Wikimedia Foundation. Congratulations!! ইতি, টিটো দত্ত (মাতৃভাষা