Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-21 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
Le 21/11/2013 04:26, Erik Moeller a écrit : On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Sure, but you can't undo it, once it is done. Maybe it was stupid to take on this responsibility, but deleting the site is not an ethical way to rectify the mistake. If

[Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Tim Starling
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki I think it's disrespectful to solicit contributions towards a memorial website, and then to fail to maintain that memorial website in a searchable format. Today, searching the web for phrases in contributed memorial pages brings up only ancient,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Nathan
I think it would be better to reformulate it into book format and make it available as an e-book, for free download either directly from Wikimedia or other outlets like iTunes or Amazon. That would be searchable, and I don't know that hosting it in wiki form provides any benefits. Certainly as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread MZMcBride
Tim Starling wrote: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki I think it's disrespectful to solicit contributions towards a memorial website, and then to fail to maintain that memorial website in a searchable format. I think there's general agreement that setting up this wiki was a mistake. This

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: We provide a dump of the September 11 wiki's contents here: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backups-of-old-wikis.html. Memorial sites, while depressing and touching, are completely outside the scope of Wikimedia's mission. I don't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 11/20/2013 07:09 PM, Tim Starling wrote: In 2007, the September 11 wiki was moved to a non-Wikimedia site, evidently hosted by an individual without the capacity to preserve that content for posterity. It was offline after only 3 years. It is still accessible at the Internet Archive's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 21 Nov 2013, at 00:52, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: +1. sep11.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo already redirects to the IA copy, as well. Anything else is a distraction and a waste of time, sorry. Perhaps it would be worth fixing the mobile redirect for the wiki, currently it doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Tim Starling
On 21/11/13 11:38, MZMcBride wrote: Tim Starling wrote: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki I think it's disrespectful to solicit contributions towards a memorial website, and then to fail to maintain that memorial website in a searchable format. I think there's general agreement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Sure, but you can't undo it, once it is done. Maybe it was stupid to take on this responsibility, but deleting the site is not an ethical way to rectify the mistake. If you _really really_ want to take this on, please

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, 2013/11/21 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com I think it would be better to reformulate it into book format and make it available as an e-book, for free download either directly from Wikimedia or other outlets like iTunes or Amazon. That would be searchable, and I don't know that hosting it in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Victor Grigas
Tim, You could start an indiegogo or a kickstarter campaign for this. I'm sure you'd find funding and volunteers to keep it online. There is also a museum on the ground zero site that you may want to get in touch with about such an effort : http://www.911memorial.org/ They may be interested in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread MZMcBride
Tim Starling wrote: On 21/11/13 11:38, MZMcBride wrote: No subsequent major world event (e.g., the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami) has had its own Wikimedia memorial wiki established and it's very unlikely that we would ever set up another. Sure, but you can't undo it, once it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Personally I think it is unfair for one incident ti have a wiki and not others. It will someday open a huge Pandora's box. Sent from the touchscreen equivalent of a Nokia 1100, pardon the sender. -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan, Treasurer. On Nov 21, 2013 6:08 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: