Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:56: On 12 May 2013 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:20: Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. Will you still make the lists and send out the notifications so that people can start planning? Yes. We're in August, so the account unifications may happen any time soon, but no notifications have been sent to users. Is the plan again to give them only few days to fix their accounts before they are messed up with? Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
Bear in mind that no matter how slowly and carefull it is done, the will still be users who will claim to be surprised when it happens, and blame WMF for not informing them, unless each one who will be affected is required to acknowledge receipt of a message explaining unambiguously what will happen and what they, personally can and must do, and to state that they understand their obligations and undertake to do what is required of them within the specified time. Even then there will be some drama - it is the nature of the beast. Cheers, Peter - Original Message - From: MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:56: On 12 May 2013 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:20: Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. Will you still make the lists and send out the notifications so that people can start planning? Yes. We're in August, so the account unifications may happen any time soon, but no notifications have been sent to users. Is the plan again to give them only few days to fix their accounts before they are messed up with? It needs to be made explicit here and now that this change needs to be managed _incredibly carefully_ or it will result in very negative consequences for Wikimedia. As I understand it, many users will likely be forcibly renamed. Given that usernames are the primary source of identity on Wikimedia wikis, even if this process is carefully managed, it will still inevitably result in some users being incredibly upset at the loss of their preferred username on their home wiki. In my view, this process should move very slowly, with ample warning (six months to a year) given to any users affected. A long warning period will allow users to voluntarily rename themselves. Only after a sufficient warning period has been provided should there be any forcible renaming. The process outlined at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SUL_finalisation is currently unacceptable and needs to be rewritten. We must not have a repeat of the recent VisualEditor deployment fiasco in which arbitrary deadlines and requirements lead to thousands of Wikimedians being angry. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, MZMcBride wrote: It needs to be made explicit here and now that this change needs to be managed _incredibly carefully_ or it will result in very negative consequences for Wikimedia. [...] The process outlined at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SUL_finalisation is currently unacceptable and needs to be rewritten. We must not have a repeat of the recent VisualEditor deployment fiasco in which arbitrary deadlines and requirements lead to thousands of Wikimedians being angry. I completely agree with this. Regardless of whether any of the same people are involved, the VE deployment has used up all (and more) of the well of good feeling about the WMF. With a full compliment of good will you /might/ be able to get away with that timetable resulting in only a small number of unforgiving users and minor bad press. With the negative amounts of this resource the WMF has it would be an unmitigated disaster. The forced renaming needs to happen no earlier than the later of August 2014 or one year after individual notification. The individual notfications MUST include encouragemnt to voluntary renaming and should be sent at 1 year, 6 months, 3 months, 1 month, 2 weeks, 10 days, 5 days, 2 days and 1 day in advance of the renaming, and that is at a minimum. Remember that this is affecting real people, many of whom will already be pissed off at the Foundation for VE and this will affect them directly and individually. Forcibly changing someone's identity is about the most major thing you could possibly do. Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On 03/08/2013 09:41, Chris McKenna wrote: and should be sent at 1 year, 6 months, 3 months, 1 month, 2 weeks, 10 days, 5 days, 2 days and 1 day in advance of the renaming, and that is at a minimum. Why not ten years, or maybe twenty years just to be on the same side? /sarcasm KTC -- Katie Chan Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the view of any organisation the author is associated with or employed by. Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Katie Chan wrote: On 03/08/2013 09:41, Chris McKenna wrote: and should be sent at 1 year, 6 months, 3 months, 1 month, 2 weeks, 10 days, 5 days, 2 days and 1 day in advance of the renaming, and that is at a minimum. Why not ten years, or maybe twenty years just to be on the same side? A year is a reasonable amount of notice to expect - it's a long time in the digital world (it is extremely rare that people are temporarily banned from en.wp for longer than this for example). Much beyond that is pointless as people wont think it's ever going to happen and will ignore it. This will happen with some people for 1 year, but less so. Remember that we want to get people on our side, so we need to work with their psychology. Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
We're in August, so the account unifications may happen any time soon, but no notifications have been sent to users. Is the plan again to give them only few days to fix their accounts before they are messed up with? Nemo AFAIK, no. I can't speak for the (remaining) staff working on the project but (speaking only as a volunteer now) SULv2 and VE seem to have taken much longer than intended (the Admin Tools staff are part of both projects). I haven't worked on the remaining unification tasks since I left and there is a not inconsiderable amount of work remaining. Unless I missed it, global rename hasn't been deployed and there are some other prerequisite tools outstanding. Peter ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:56: James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:20: Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. Will you still make the lists and send out the notifications so that people can start planning? Yes. Any news on the notifications? Giving one or two months to affected users (from now to August) would be ideal. (The unifications on login should have improved stats https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development/SUL_Audit but probably won't help much with the long tail?) Nemo P.s.: Non-English languages speakers: we'd use some translations of the two centralauth-finishglobaliseemail* messages at https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translatefilter=!translatedaction=translategroup=ext-centralauthtux=0#msg_centralauth-finishglobaliseemail_subject. If you don't have a translator account you can create one at https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:FirstSteps ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
All, As an update, I'm afraid to announce that we will have to delay the process for some time. As my previous e-mail states, we had intended to start the final renaming process in the week commencing 27 May. However, given the scale of the task, it now is clear that this would interfere with the community elections for the Wikimedia Foundation's Board, FDC and FDC Ombudsperson, which start on 1 June. Voters' accounts would get renamed (and then possibly renamed further at their request), which would mean that the eligible-voter list would be out-of-date and need a huge amount of manual work by the Election Committee. As I'm sure you're all aware, the existing duties of the Committee are already taxing; adding this to their workload at the last minute would be highly unfair to them, and to the community who will wish to vote. Although the finalisation of the Single User Login system is important, I cannot let it disrupt the community's voting. Because of this, I have decided to delay the renaming and the finalisation of SUL. This will not have an impact on existing features, though it will mean that non-global users may be unable to use new tools developed between now and finalisations. Unfortunately, by the time the election is over, I will be focussed entirely on the wider roll-out of VisualEditor, which will continue for some time. I therefore intend to re-start the process in August, following Wikimania. I will let people know the updated schedule closer to the time. Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On 12 May 2013 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: James Forrester, 12/05/2013 19:20: Sorry for the disruption to everyone's plans. If you have any questions, please do ask. Will you still make the lists and send out the notifications so that people can start planning? Yes. J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal capacity) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:29 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis in future, we will be renaming a number of accounts to have ~” and the name of their wiki added to the end of their accounts' name. This change will take place on or around 27 May. For example, a user called “Example” on the Swedish Wiktionary who will be renamed would become “Example~svwiktionary”. Why did you choose to insert the character ~? Many keyboards do not have such a key. Cruccone ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
James answered this in his original email: It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts must be globally unique - therefore it will be withdrawn from bureaucrats' tool sets. It will still be possible for users to ask on Meta for their account to be renamed further, if they do not like their new user name, once this takes place. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Will the affected users be given a one-time offer to have their accounts renamed, or are they stuck forever with the ~ ones? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:01 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 29 April 2013 20:59, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks James, personally I'm comforted by your prompt reply. Happy to help. :-) My intuition is that this would be unlikely to affect any accounts with more than 5,000 edits, possibly fewer. I have no doubt that you intend to take special care to help users with significant contributions, such as those with a well established contribution history at this level. Yes, I'll be personally reviewing the renaming list to make sure we can catch any particularly-major issues early. Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
David Richfield, 30/04/2013 10:50: James answered this in his original email: No, that doesn't answer (see also talk page). Nemo It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts must be globally unique - therefore it will be withdrawn from bureaucrats' tool sets. It will still be possible for users to ask on Meta for their account to be renamed further, if they do not like their new user name, once this takes place. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Will the affected users be given a one-time offer to have their accounts renamed, or are they stuck forever with the ~ ones? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:01 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 29 April 2013 20:59, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks James, personally I'm comforted by your prompt reply. Happy to help. :-) My intuition is that this would be unlikely to affect any accounts with more than 5,000 edits, possibly fewer. I have no doubt that you intend to take special care to help users with significant contributions, such as those with a well established contribution history at this level. Yes, I'll be personally reviewing the renaming list to make sure we can catch any particularly-major issues early. Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On 30 Apr, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Will the affected users be given a one-time offer to have their accounts renamed, or are they stuck forever with the ~ ones? Rename is still possible, similar to what we have now, but just on a global level. So no, they are not stuck forever with it, of course. One thing to note is the technical limitation on # of edits. If account has too many edits, he may not be able to get it renamed further. How will that be managed? I guess James will address this issue, as he said he'll look through the rename list (make a one-time offer etc? ) . Regards, Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com wrote: ... One thing to note is the technical limitation on # of edits. If account has too many edits, he may not be able to get it renamed further. ... It just needs to be done server side, The same way it already is. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
Global renames will be done by Stewards then, yes? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com wrote: ... One thing to note is the technical limitation on # of edits. If account has too many edits, he may not be able to get it renamed further. ... It just needs to be done server side, The same way it already is. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On 30 April 2013 03:29, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis in future, we will be renaming a number of accounts to have ~” and the name of their wiki added to the end of their accounts' name. This change will take place on or around 27 May. For example, a user called “Example” on the Swedish Wiktionary who will be renamed would become “Example~svwiktionary”. I was wondering if this would ever finally happen! One ide-effect of centralised renaming: a lot less work for individual projects and a lot less confusion over where and how names can be used/usurped, in which order, etc... -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On 30 April 2013 01:01, Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:29 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis in future, we will be renaming a number of accounts to have ~” and the name of their wiki added to the end of their accounts' name. This change will take place on or around 27 May. For example, a user called “Example” on the Swedish Wiktionary who will be renamed would become “Example~svwiktionary”. Why did you choose to insert the character ~? Many keyboards do not have such a key. We picked a character which had very few clashes with the existing set of account names, but was allowed in account names and distinctive. Active accounts will be welcome to rename in the 'normal' process if they do not want to remain at the name to which the script will move them. J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
On 30 April 2013 02:56, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote: Global renames will be done by Stewards then, yes? Yes. J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
All, The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users (like cross-wiki notifications). These changes will mean users have the same account name everywhere, will let us give you new features that will help you edit discuss better, and will allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the pre-conditions for this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis.[0] Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis in future, we will be renaming a number of accounts to have ~” and the name of their wiki added to the end of their accounts' name. This change will take place on or around 27 May. For example, a user called “Example” on the Swedish Wiktionary who will be renamed would become “Example~svwiktionary”. All accounts will still work as before, and will continue to be credited for all their edits made so far. However, users with renamed accounts (whom we will be contacting individually) will have to use the new account name when they log in. It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts must be globally unique - therefore it will be withdrawn from bureaucrats' tool sets. It will still be possible for users to ask on Meta for their account to be renamed further, if they do not like their new user name, once this takes place. A copy of this note is posted to meta [1] for translation. Please forward this to your local communities, and help get it translated. Individuals who are affected will be notified via talk page and e-mail notices nearer the time. [0] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Unified_login [1] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
Hi James, thanks for the links. Keeping in mind that there will be users that unexpectedly find their much loved account name changed the next time they try to log in, and this may be central to their established online wiki identity, is there a community discussion that we can point to where this approach was consulted on? Thanks, Fae On 30 April 2013 03:29, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: All, The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users (like cross-wiki notifications). These changes will mean users have the same account name everywhere, will let us give you new features that will help you edit discuss better, and will allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the pre-conditions for this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis.[0] Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis in future, we will be renaming a number of accounts to have ~” and the name of their wiki added to the end of their accounts' name. This change will take place on or around 27 May. For example, a user called “Example” on the Swedish Wiktionary who will be renamed would become “Example~svwiktionary”. All accounts will still work as before, and will continue to be credited for all their edits made so far. However, users with renamed accounts (whom we will be contacting individually) will have to use the new account name when they log in. It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts must be globally unique - therefore it will be withdrawn from bureaucrats' tool sets. It will still be possible for users to ask on Meta for their account to be renamed further, if they do not like their new user name, once this takes place. A copy of this note is posted to meta [1] for translation. Please forward this to your local communities, and help get it translated. Individuals who are affected will be notified via talk page and e-mail notices nearer the time. [0] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Unified_login [1] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae Personal and confidential. Unless otherwise stated, do not copy, quote or forward this email for any reason without permission. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
Fae, Though I understand the concern that users will have, the need to rename a relatively-small number of accounts is a technical requirement that has been built into our system since SUL was designed c. 2005; it was switched on in early 2008. This has (sadly) been on the back-burner for too many years now, and efforts to finalise things have repeatedly stalled. By waiting, and not wanting to bite the bullet, we have increased (significantly) the number of accounts affected by this, and discussing it further will certainly not reduce that fact. That said, the vast majority of accounts affected will not be actively used - and if your account is already global (as you will be informed against Global account status in your preferences), this will not affect your account in any way. This is, primarily, a developer action necessary to improve the site and provide better tools for our users (like cross-wiki notifications and watchlists, giving limited editing rights to a tool editing through your account, and others). Of course, we are sensitive to the emotional attachment that users will have to their account's name, and I do not want to make light of that. We have worked hard over the past few months to help ameliorate this with better tools for renaming accounts (so that users who are affected can pick a new name that they like more easily), which will ease the transition. But discussing it further will not make it go away. Yours, On 29 April 2013 19:38, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, thanks for the links. Keeping in mind that there will be users that unexpectedly find their much loved account name changed the next time they try to log in, and this may be central to their established online wiki identity, is there a community discussion that we can point to where this approach was consulted on? Thanks, Fae On 30 April 2013 03:29, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: All, The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users (like cross-wiki notifications). These changes will mean users have the same account name everywhere, will let us give you new features that will help you edit discuss better, and will allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the pre-conditions for this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis.[0] Unfortunately, some accounts are currently not unique across all our wikis, but instead clash with other users who have the same account name. To make sure that all of these users can use Wikimedia's wikis in future, we will be renaming a number of accounts to have ~” and the name of their wiki added to the end of their accounts' name. This change will take place on or around 27 May. For example, a user called “Example” on the Swedish Wiktionary who will be renamed would become “Example~svwiktionary”. All accounts will still work as before, and will continue to be credited for all their edits made so far. However, users with renamed accounts (whom we will be contacting individually) will have to use the new account name when they log in. It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts must be globally unique - therefore it will be withdrawn from bureaucrats' tool sets. It will still be possible for users to ask on Meta for their account to be renamed further, if they do not like their new user name, once this takes place. A copy of this note is posted to meta [1] for translation. Please forward this to your local communities, and help get it translated. Individuals who are affected will be notified via talk page and e-mail notices nearer the time. [0] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Unified_login [1] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae Personal and confidential. Unless otherwise stated, do not copy, quote or forward this email for any reason without permission. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
Thanks James, personally I'm comforted by your prompt reply. My intuition is that this would be unlikely to affect any accounts with more than 5,000 edits, possibly fewer. I have no doubt that you intend to take special care to help users with significant contributions, such as those with a well established contribution history at this level. Cheers, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae Personal and confidential. Unless otherwise stated, do not copy, quote or forward this email for any reason without permission. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
