Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-03 Thread Alex Monk
Hi Phillippe, I noticed that the press release[1] had been made and says despite a press report in Finland that suggested we did not meet the deadline. That press report has since been retracted and corrected However, when I browse to the report, it still appears uncorrected.. Alex [1]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-03 Thread Stryn@Wikimedia
The corrected report seems to be http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2014/03/02/5152/Report-submitted-to-police-duly,-says-Wikimedia Regards, *Stryn* Hi Phillippe, I noticed that the press release[1] had been made and says despite a press report in Finland that suggested we did not meet the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-03 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Stryn@Wikimedia strynw...@gmail.com wrote: The corrected report seems to be http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2014/03/02/5152/Report-submitted-to-police-duly,-says-Wikimedia Regards, *Stryn* Wow, that's one hell of a correction. Good on Finland Times.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-03 Thread Risker
Heh. So the Wikimedia representative was in Finland? Still a bit of correction coming, I think. Risker/Anne On 3 March 2014 14:05, Stryn@Wikimedia strynw...@gmail.com wrote: The corrected report seems to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-01 Thread Alex Monk
Apparently they got no response: http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2014/03/01/5137/Wikipediafailstomeetdeadlineonpolicerequest On 10 February 2014 15:41, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, he would definitely have enjoyed this one 2014-02-10 9:51 GMT+01:00, Leinonen Teemu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-01 Thread Jane Darnell
The plot thickens! Of course it would be interesting to know what the average Finnish Wikipedia user knows about how Wikipedia works and whether they realize upon donation that they are not just donating to their Finnish (or Swedish) Wikipedia, but also to all of the other projects... 2014-03-01

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-01 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 01/03/2014 15:49, Jane Darnell a écrit : The plot thickens! Of course it would be interesting to know what the average Finnish Wikipedia user knows about how Wikipedia works and whether they realize upon donation that they are not just donating to their Finnish (or Swedish) Wikipedia, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-01 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi Alex, I have checked with Legal. Our deadline for the response was Friday, and our response was indeed filed yesterday. We received an email confirmation from the authorities that the document had been received and we called them as well to confirm safe receipt. It might of course have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-10 Thread Leinonen Teemu
On 8.2.2014, at 13.51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I love this thread - it make me think of Matti Wuori in the movie The man without a past Heh :-) These days, I also miss Matti Wuori. :-'( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Wuori - Teemu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-10 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, he would definitely have enjoyed this one 2014-02-10 9:51 GMT+01:00, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fi: On 8.2.2014, at 13.51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I love this thread - it make me think of Matti Wuori in the movie The man without a past Heh :-) These days, I also

[Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Leinonen Teemu
Hi, I just got a message that the Finnish Police have asked the fi.wikipedia, by sending an email to the wikifi-ad...@list.wikimedia.org, to give a written statement about their possible violation of the laws that regulate fundraising in Finland. There is a little news about this already

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Alex Monk
Has anyone translated the email into English? Would be interesting to see what it says... Alex Monk On 7 February 2014 21:33, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fi wrote: Hi, I just got a message that the Finnish Police have asked the fi.wikipedia, by sending an email to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Seb35
It’s incredible that some governments think they own the language(s) mainly spoken in their country: fi.wikipedia.org is in Finnish but not related to Finland (non-Finnish people could visit fi.wikipedia.org, and Finnish people could visit other language Wikipedias). And it’s sad if they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1889/18890039001#L17P16b Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Kevin Gorman
My Finnish is hardly perfect, but the letter essentially outlines the Finnish law regarding what is and what isn't money collection activities, and then compares what goes on with fi.wikipedia.org with the relevant Finnish statutes, concluding that the fundraising campaign is in fact a money

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Isarra Yos
Who exactly would the webmaster of fi.wikipedia.org even be? On 08/02/14 00:24, Kevin Gorman wrote: My Finnish is hardly perfect, but the letter essentially outlines the Finnish law regarding what is and what isn't money collection activities, and then compares what goes on with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Craig Franklin
The Foundation. Which is why WMFI shouldn't try to reply to this except to refer them on. Cheers, Craig On 08/02/2014 11:11 AM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: Who exactly would the webmaster of fi.wikipedia.org even be? On 08/02/14 00:24, Kevin Gorman wrote: My Finnish is hardly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Charles Gregory
In Australia, we (Wikimedia Australia) had to get fundraising approval before the 2010 fundraiser (when the chapters accepted and processed the payments and then passed a share back to the Wikimedia Foundation). This was made more complicated due to the fundraising laws being a state issue rather

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread George Herbert
Most importantly for all this, the SERVERS are not hosted in Finland (unless something snuck in there behind my back). Under US and EU laws, I would think there's no Finnish jurisdiction over where the servers are located. If the Finnish Police are asserting authority over any website written in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Charles Gregory
Of course it's not a strict 1:1 ratio! But I was comparing it to (for example) English or Spanish, which the country of origin represent a minority of all speakers worldwide. Charles On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: I would dispute the suggestion the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen LaPorte
Hello all, We are handling this issue, and we are contacting the authorities to resolve their questions. If you receive any official inquires about fundraising on Finnish Wikipedia, please direct them to the Wikimedia Foundation legal team, to me or Andrei Voinigescu (avoinige...@wikimedia.org).