Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed
Hi, Went through mission 1 and the main feedback is that it's just too long. You should break the missions in smaller, quicker steps. The interface is visually pleasant and as far as I can see, it gets you through all the basic editing skills, which is nice. However, the messages are not always in the same place and sometimes are not visible in the visible part of the page, making it a little confusing for people without much computer skills. It would also help to be able to move the box. I especially like the little badges you get, but I'm not quite sure how they are aligned (perhaps because I only got 1): the first one was put in the middle of the page (horizontally) Are there any technical details on the game and the difficulty of implementing it on other wikis? Thanks, Strainu 2013/10/28 Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com: Some thoughts upon running through this (roughly in the order I am experiencing them): - This is actually pretty cool. Cooler than I expected it to be! - Instructions sometimes tell me to click edit source and sometimes to click edit, even though it always means that I should click edit source. Since the VE button says edit, this is potentially pretty confusing. - At the end of missions, the button says Congrats me!. That's pretty jarring English - more natural would be either, Congrats, me! or Congrats to me! - The select how you would reply to this person challenges are...patronizing? That's not quite the right word, but I don't think they're modelling anything useful by basically pointing out hey, you shouldn't be a rude jackass as if it's someone's going to read those options and go yes! this is clearly how I should act!. More useful would be modelling interaction strategies and tricks, like how to engage with some who's left you a rude message or even just what information is useful to provide to other users. - Galactic challenges keep launching new tabs for me when they don't seem like they ought to (i.e. there's no reason I need to have the results of that challenge preserved in one firefox tab while I move on in another) - The watchlist module has instructions that are a little bit confusing - it instructs you on *how *to watchlist (blue star, etc), but then tells you to *click *on watchlist on the top right. Since both the star and the actual watchlist link are on the top right, it's likely going to be unclear to newbies whether you want them to click on the star you just explained, or the link you didn't. - In general when you're telling people to click X above, it might be useful to use quotes so they know you're telling to click on something that literally says that - tell them to *click contributions above *rather than to *click contributions above* - When doing spelling corrections, the hover box listing what I needed to correct obscured part of the text that needed correcting. I couldn't correct that until I closed the box. Once I did that, I was bumped out of the lesson entirely. Couldn't figure out how to the mission to pick back up there, so I had to stop. Why can't we either minimize the instructions box, or have it resurrect when we complete a step (that is, if I did what it wanted me to do, it should pick back up smoothly when I save the page with its next instruction, rather than just disappearing forever because I had to click the X) In short: really very cool, but in the parts I managed to get through (Missions 1-2 and part of 3) there are some small interface issues that need work, and one *glaring *one that short-circuited my attempt to get through a mission and, I guess, the entire adventure. -Fluffernutter On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF Individual Engagement Grant. The game is an experiment in teaching our aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way. *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically try to break it. I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of course, but I'm really looking for gnarly, unexpected browser issues, layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent people from playing through and having a positive experience. *If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar, c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts. *Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace and it lets you know when that will happen. If you want, you can register a new testing account
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed
Hello Jake, This is fantastic for an Alpha sage! Have gone through the entire mission. There was some problem in loading the next levels at certain stages and I had to refresh the page couple of times. Would be nice if this could be tested with a completely new set of users across geographies and age-groups in Beta stage. I could help finding people from India. Would like this to be finalized soon and try to customize it to the Indian languages. Great work! Cheers, Vishnu On 29 October 2013 21:40, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Went through mission 1 and the main feedback is that it's just too long. You should break the missions in smaller, quicker steps. The interface is visually pleasant and as far as I can see, it gets you through all the basic editing skills, which is nice. However, the messages are not always in the same place and sometimes are not visible in the visible part of the page, making it a little confusing for people without much computer skills. It would also help to be able to move the box. I especially like the little badges you get, but I'm not quite sure how they are aligned (perhaps because I only got 1): the first one was put in the middle of the page (horizontally) Are there any technical details on the game and the difficulty of implementing it on other wikis? Thanks, Strainu 2013/10/28 Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com: Some thoughts upon running through this (roughly in the order I am experiencing them): - This is actually pretty cool. Cooler than I expected it to be! - Instructions sometimes tell me to click edit source and sometimes to click edit, even though it always means that I should click edit source. Since the VE button says edit, this is potentially pretty confusing. - At the end of missions, the button says Congrats me!. That's pretty jarring English - more natural would be either, Congrats, me! or Congrats to me! - The select how you would reply to this person challenges are...patronizing? That's not quite the right word, but I don't think they're modelling anything useful by basically pointing out hey, you shouldn't be a rude jackass as if it's someone's going to read those options and go yes! this is clearly how I should act!. More useful would be modelling interaction strategies and tricks, like how to engage with some who's left you a rude message or even just what information is useful to provide to other users. - Galactic challenges keep launching new tabs for me when they don't seem like they ought to (i.e. there's no reason I need to have the results of that challenge preserved in one firefox tab while I move on in another) - The watchlist module has instructions that are a little bit confusing - it instructs you on *how *to watchlist (blue star, etc), but then tells you to *click *on watchlist on the top right. Since both the star and the actual watchlist link are on the top right, it's likely going to be unclear to newbies whether you want them to click on the star you just explained, or the link you didn't. - In general when you're telling people to click X above, it might be useful to use quotes so they know you're telling to click on something that literally says that - tell them to *click contributions above *rather than to *click contributions above* - When doing spelling corrections, the hover box listing what I needed to correct obscured part of the text that needed correcting. I couldn't correct that until I closed the box. Once I did that, I was bumped out of the lesson entirely. Couldn't figure out how to the mission to pick back up there, so I had to stop. Why can't we either minimize the instructions box, or have it resurrect when we complete a step (that is, if I did what it wanted me to do, it should pick back up smoothly when I save the page with its next instruction, rather than just disappearing forever because I had to click the X) In short: really very cool, but in the parts I managed to get through (Missions 1-2 and part of 3) there are some small interface issues that need work, and one *glaring *one that short-circuited my attempt to get through a mission and, I guess, the entire adventure. -Fluffernutter On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF Individual Engagement Grant. The game is an experiment in teaching our aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way. *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically try to break it. I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of course, but I'm really looking
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed
Hi Jake. I completed the first mission, editing and formatting. Hi think it's pretty cool! A minor issue, maybe, is that the badge is created at the bottom of the page, in the center. I personally don't like that, as I'm used to having things on the right side of it. As I'm supposed to be a newbie, I maybe don't know hox to fix it, or move it or anything. ANother thing is that I clicked on the Editor badgem to see what it was like, and I bit of lost myself. Is the message clear enoguh, when you say go back and click edit? But, as I said, these are minor things. It would be very cool tro translate this game in Italian too, at the end :-) Aubrey On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: David, I think I just fixed it with the help of Village Pump Tech. Please give it another go. http://enwp.org/WP:TWA Cheers! Jake (Ocaasi) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed
Hey David, Thanks! This is a known bug and I'm fixing it this weekend. If you make an edit, you can see the rest of the game. This is first priority for fixing, though. Thanks again! Jake (Ocaasi) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed
David, I think I just fixed it with the help of Village Pump Tech. Please give it another go. http://enwp.org/WP:TWA Cheers! Jake (Ocaasi) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed
Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF Individual Engagement Grant. The game is an experiment in teaching our aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way. *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically try to break it. I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of course, but I'm really looking for gnarly, unexpected browser issues, layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent people from playing through and having a positive experience. *If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar, c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts. *Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace and it lets you know when that will happen. If you want, you can register a new testing account just for the game, but it won't work properly unless you're logged-in by step 8 of mission 1 (when it lets you register on the fly). You can try it out at http://enwp.org/WP:TWA and leave feedback at http://enwp.org/WP:TWA/Feedback]]. Thanks much and cheers! --Jake Orlowitz (Ocaasi) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
