2012/5/29 David Gerard :
> On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
>> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
>
>
> I'd actually flag smartphones as the culprit.
Well, the empire strikes back:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-tomtom-ios-6-maps/ :) Another
"usab
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> The more you play with OpenStreetMap, the more magical ways you start
> discovering that you can use the data. Two that I've recently found...
>
> 1. Water fountains. Here in London, we used to have lots of water
> fountains. Then modern capital
The more you play with OpenStreetMap, the more magical ways you start
discovering that you can use the data. Two that I've recently found...
1. Water fountains. Here in London, we used to have lots of water
fountains. Then modern capitalism found a much better way of
delivering water to people: pu
On 7 June 2012 15:30, Dan Rosenthal wrote:
> Yet it fails in other aspects -- the U.S. embassy is the most recognizable
> landmark on Intoto street, and is not listed; neither are the French,
> German, or British embassies. The EU Commission is not listed on Cape Verde
> st. even though that str
OSM is great. Here in Addis Ababa, street names are not used except in a
handful of major thoroughfares; people navigate by landmark. OSM has far
more navigable map of the city than googlemaps does. In some areas it
labels the street name in the local fashion (e.g. "Road to Gerji Giorgis).
Yet it
2012/6/7 Richard Symonds :
> the house because it's not
> on their navigation systems...
May I thank evebody participating in this discussion for the
throughout update on navigation system?
I am finding it very interesting, above all the comparising among
different countries. =)
Cristian
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Oddly, I checked a family home in Missouri the other day.
On Google maps, it's set about 1 mile from where it should be... and on the
wrong side of the Missouri river. It shows roads where there are none, and
is thoroughly unusable. UPS etc don't deliver to the house because it's not
on their navi
>> Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 13:23:25 +0100, Tom Morris wrote:
>> On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
>>> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world,
>>> whereas
>>> OSM, for the most part, is not.
>>>
>>> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Googl
I've never used a professional GPS, but I've found Navit and Gosmore
to be quite useful on Android. Interstingly, they have complementary
levels of fail. Navit has good voice instructions, but horrible
search, while Gosmore has semi-lame voice instructions but very good
search.
Both of them seem
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 09:29:19AM -0400, Anthony wrote:
> I just tried osmand. I can't even figure out how to put in an
> address.
WFM (Works For Me)? Also routing is not mapping. It looks like the
android coders could still improve their routing algorithms a bit. As
long as you take that into
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On 29 May 2012 15:28, Anthony wrote:
>> And I don't foresee OSM ever being able to catch up. Google is very
>> much a moving target. While OSM is working on catching up on
>> geolocation (address to lat/lon) information, Google is micromappi
On 29 May 2012 15:28, Anthony wrote:
> And I don't foresee OSM ever being able to catch up. Google is very
> much a moving target. While OSM is working on catching up on
> geolocation (address to lat/lon) information, Google is micromapping
> to the level of detail needed to program a self-drivi
2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> ...if you wanna go this way, I wonder if you "go to en.wikipedia.org
>> and just use it" if you want to plant tomatoes in your garden. I know
>> I wouldn't.
>
> I wouldn't use Britannica either. The context of the article is GPS
> navigation for automobiles.
I'm sorry, I do
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Strainu wrote:
> 2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> I'm not doubting that someone can take OSM data and make it into
>> something usable. I'm not even doubting that someone *has* taken OSM
>> data and made it into something usable.
>
> You obviously have already made up you
2012/5/29 Anthony :
> I'm not doubting that someone can take OSM data and make it into
> something usable. I'm not even doubting that someone *has* taken OSM
> data and made it into something usable.
You obviously have already made up you mind, so I doubt anything I'll
say will change that, but..
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Strainu wrote:
> 2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> I just tried osmand. I can't even figure out how to put in an
>> address. I then tried navfree usa.
>
> You're limiting yourself to Android, which isn't very fair. Try to get
> hold of a Garmin device with OSM maps and see
2012/5/29 Anthony :
> I just tried osmand. I can't even figure out how to put in an
> address. I then tried navfree usa.
You're limiting yourself to Android, which isn't very fair. Try to get
hold of a Garmin device with OSM maps and see if that makes a
difference. I suspect it will. (Garmin als
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Anthony wrote:
> I then tried navfree usa.
Looking more closely at the directions it did give me, it is having me
get off the toll highway at basically every exit and then getting back
on it. And the destination is off by 13 blocks (about a mile).
_
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Strainu wrote:
> 2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
>> OSM, for the most part, is not.
>
> I see it the other way around: OSM, for the most part, IS usable in
> the real world. One can easily navigate using
2012/5/29 Anthony :
> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
> OSM, for the most part, is not.
I see it the other way around: OSM, for the most part, IS usable in
the real world. One can easily navigate using OSM data on the main
roads in a country, and even on major
On 29 May 2012 13:38, Richard Symonds wrote:
> Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete?
>
Well, there's OSM "bugs". Basically, there is a way you can file a bug
on the map, sort of like how you might leave a note on a talk page
(only there is some actual bug semanti
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Richard Symonds
wrote:
> Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete?
Sure, but they all require comparison to something (a data source,
memory, the real world) which is accurate/complete.
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On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:27 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
>
>> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
>> OSM, for the most part, is not.
>> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
>
>
> I'd actually fl
Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete?
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On 29 May 2012 13:29, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 13:23:25 +0100, Tom Morris wrote:
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world,
whereas
OSM, for the most part, is not.
Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of
OSM.
I'd say OSM is beginning
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
> OSM, for the most part, is not.
> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
I'd actually flag smartphones as the culprit. They're the good-enough
cheap alt
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
> OSM, for the most part, is not.
>
> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
>
I'd say OSM is beginning to be pretty usable in the real world. It's
usable f
The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
OSM, for the most part, is not.
Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:28 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> TomTom press release:
> http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsle
I was skeptical with parent-like satnavs when they were first
introduced back then; I still am skeptical today. What's inadequate
about "Read map*, pay attention to the road, use brain"?
Deryck
*I'm a big fan of using the automatic route-planning features of map
systems like Google Maps or even T
Ha, makes for a good read. Thanks for sharing, David!
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On 29 May 2012 12:28, David Gerard wrote:
> TomTom press release:
TomTom press release:
http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/
OpenStreetMap volunteer response:
http://www.systemed.net/blog/index.php?post=23 Flags TomTom
quote-mining.
- d.
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