[Wikimedia-l] We have an awesome Translation Tools....made for English speakers first

2014-08-14 Thread Charles Andrès
Dear all,

I would like to draw your attention on the Translation Extension for Mediawiki, 
since 2 years now, community members ask to improve this extension by adding 
the possibility to select the original language.  
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35489

We are in a movement where the knowledge exchange is a primary concern, we have 
a really good tools to facilitate the translation of the documentation, but 
today we are still obliged to first translate manually in English before 
being able to use the Translate extension.

I’m not a Tech guy, I try to read the bug's page linked before, and the only 
message I can get from is « you, non English speakers, are not our priority ».

The ability to translate in multiple language the documentation created by non 
English speakers is a major challenge, we need to make it happen more often. 

Everyday I heard French speaker saying that they do not belong to the Wikimedia 
Community because it’s all in English/all for English, I do not pretend that 
improving the Translate extension will solve this issue, but it could be a 
little step forward.

thank for your attention


Charles


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] We have an awesome Translation Tools....made for English speakers first

2014-08-14 Thread Vira Motorko
It is weird that, for example, chapters' pages on Meta should be written in
English and then translated into native language -- according to current
logic.

I agree with Charles, this change would be a step forward.
Sure, translators-l will also agree.

*Vira Motorko*

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2014-08-14 16:43 GMT+03:00 Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com:

 Dear all,

 I would like to draw your attention on the Translation Extension for
 Mediawiki, since 2 years now, community members ask to improve this
 extension by adding the possibility to select the original language.
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35489

 We are in a movement where the knowledge exchange is a primary concern, we
 have a really good tools to facilitate the translation of the
 documentation, but today we are still obliged to first translate manually
 in English before being able to use the Translate extension.

 I'm not a Tech guy, I try to read the bug's page linked before, and the
 only message I can get from is  you, non English speakers, are not our
 priority .

 The ability to translate in multiple language the documentation created by
 non English speakers is a major challenge, we need to make it happen more
 often.

 Everyday I heard French speaker saying that they do not belong to the
 Wikimedia Community because it's all in English/all for English, I do not
 pretend that improving the Translate extension will solve this issue, but
 it could be a little step forward.

 thank for your attention


 Charles


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 Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge -
 www.wikimedia.ch
 Office +41 (0)21 340 66 21
 Mobile +41 (0)78 910 00 97
 Skype: charles.andres.wmch
 IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch
 http://prezi.com/user/Andrescharles/


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