Re: [Wikimedia-l] What is our impact and how do we measure it?

2017-02-23 Thread James Salsman
Hi Chris, Thank you for your reply: >> This paper suggests that Wikipedia has become more influential >> than a large proportion of the peer reviewed literature: >> >> http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~xshuai/papers/jcdl240-shuai.pdf > > I am not sure that is the correct conclusion from the paper you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What is our impact and how do we measure it?

2017-02-23 Thread Chris Keating
Hi James, This paper suggests that Wikipedia has become more influential than a large > proportion of the peer reviewed literature: > > http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~xshuai/papers/jcdl240-shuai.pdf I am not sure that is the correct conclusion from the paper you mention. To quote the conclusion:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What is our impact and how do we measure it?

2017-02-23 Thread James Salsman
Gerard, Are there any other areas where systemic bias on the wikipedias might reasonably expected to cause serious damage to society? If we are missing articles on notable women, or rural landmarks, or we have Japanese islands with Korean names or vice-versa, that is bad, but is it likely to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What is our impact and how do we measure it?

2017-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are many area's where Wikipedia is biased. Obviously we take the gender gap seriously but there is also a bias towards the Western world. It is very much in the very basics of our community. Why should we study the bias in a field like economics? When we were to study it what kind of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What is our impact and how do we measure it?

2017-02-23 Thread James Salsman
Another fact to consider is that both doctors and patients have been obtaining most of their medical information from Wikipedia for years: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/doctors-1-source-for-healthcare-information-wikipedia/284206/ Christophe, does the Board agree that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What is our impact and how do we measure it?

2017-02-23 Thread James Salsman
Chris, This paper suggests that Wikipedia has become more influential than a large proportion of the peer reviewed literature: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~xshuai/papers/jcdl240-shuai.pdf On a related note, I tried to reply off-list to the Foundation official who recently claimed that my

[Wikimedia-l] What is our impact and how do we measure it?

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Keating
Hi all, For a while now I've been thinking about different ways to define and measure the Wikimedia movement's impact. This started for me with various conversations about different iterations of the WMF's Global Metrics and different rounds of FDC bids, but it turns out to be wider than that.