Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-10-02 Thread Balázs Viczián
I wrote a sort of a programme proposal on the talk page in June. If nothing else comes up, you may take that as a basis to start the discussion from somewhere. Find it under content. Cheers, Balazs User:Vince 2013/10/2 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Hey Chris, it's all on meta. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-10-02 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Just a small formal question: is there any reason why Amical as a thematic organization was not considered in the travel costs? I thought it's a Wikimedia Conference, and not a Chapters Conference anymore. But maybe that's a further question, whether Thematic Organizations and User Groups are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-10-02 Thread Nicole Ebber
Only to make the process easier; WMF board, FDC and AffCom members are also not considered in the calculation, but their meetings are an important part of the conference. We were just trying to find a practical way to roughly estimate the range of the travel costs. HTH, Nicole Nicole Ebber

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-10-02 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Thanks, Bence Nicole, for the quick response! Best Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 2 October 2013 20:34, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Only to make the process easier; WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-10-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
Quick note: I have moved the Questions and answers to the talk page, to keep the bids page readable for those wanting to compare the bids on their own. A. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, Bence Nicole, for the quick response! Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-30 Thread Cristian Consonni
... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-30 Thread Chris Keating
Indeed! Given that a while back people were asking whether this conference would happen *at all* it is very good to see that there are four chapters willing to host. Many thanks to Germany, Sweden, India and Italy. :-) I am not sure whether anyone has called for a programme committee or similar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-26 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hello again, FYI: WMDE has just posted their bid to host Wikimedia Conference 2014. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_1:_WMDE The deadline for the bidding process is approaching: 30 September is the last day to enter your bid on Meta. There

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-20 Thread Jon Davies
I think there is an assumption that it is needed and indeed welcomed. From my two experiences it has been very valuable and,I would argue, in an organisation like ours essential for developing good working relationships and practices. On 20 September 2013 05:53, Balázs Viczián

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-20 Thread Katie Chan
On 20/09/2013 05:53, Balázs Viczián wrote: I think you miss my point: I see an event that is being pushed despite no sufficient visible interest in it from those whom you are targeting with it... Sure you'll have more applications than vacant slots, it is pretty easy to find people to travel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-20 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi, A few people asked me with varying degrees of seriousness about this in Hong Kong, so I'll just put this out there and say that Wikimedia Australia will not be in a position to host this event in 2014. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 16 September 2013 22:11,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-20 Thread Bence Damokos
The name conference doesn't mean that it has to stick to the traditional conference format. Indeed, one of the suggested discussion topics (both in general, and for the actual programme committee) is to consider different formats and approaches (e.g. using the event for capacity building

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Balázs Viczián
Imo would be nice to know what to bid for before bidding at all... If it is that struggling to find out what is WMConf is about, I suggest dropping it at all (as per the evolution of Wikimania, it would be a reasonable decision) and create small, thematic workshops instead (see the PED workshop

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Vince, That may be true. But maybe you remember that Nicole some months ago tried to initiate a discussion process about the Conference, almost nobody replied or was engaged in the discussion. So now we have to hurry up, if we want a conference or a meeting at all in early 2014. After that or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, This event can be installed to any city: given the requirements I can organize it at any city having a conference centre large enough, from Sopron, Hungary ( http://www.prokultura.hu/hu/konferenciak/rendezvenytermek.html , 5 section rooms, 2 large halls, a theatre, etc.) to Mexico City,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Cristian Consonni
2013/9/18 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu: The thing is that you should start building from the bottom, not from the top. A venue can be secured as late as 3 months before the event to give everyone enough time to plan and get cheap tickets (and I mean first minute, not last

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Nathan
Simple solution - until someone else volunteers to host the conference, just have it in the same place every year. You can work out distribution of funding independently from where it is actually held. Since WMDE seems to be in the driver seat, having a backup plan of a conference in Germany seems

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Ilario Valdelli
I agree. The work behind the organization is more than organizing a wiki-meeting to drink a beer. People have to consider the costs for travel, the booking of tickets and the accommodation plus visas. Yes, six months is a convenient timeline to start working on. regards On Wed, Sep 18, 2013

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Jon Davies
Can we have it in that place that hosts Groundhog day? Didn't we have all these discussions last year? Is this a wiki tradition nobody told me about? Jon On 18 September 2013 14:31, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. The work behind the organization is more than organizing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Katie Chan
On 18/09/2013 14:29, Nathan wrote: Simple solution - until someone else volunteers to host the conference, just have it in the same place every year. You can work out distribution of funding independently from where it is actually held. Since WMDE seems to be in the driver seat, having a backup

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Anders Wennersten
In 2008 I looked into hosting this meeting for 2009 in Stockholm. I quickly learnt that the travel logistics/costs was heavy against such a place, being outside central Europe and not having a real international flighthub. Berlin was a much better place in this respect and I believe also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hey Katie, On 18 September 2013 16:59, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: Italy applied to the WMF Grants Program for fund to host this year conference. Unless the WMF have agreed to guarantee funding for future years conference (I haven't been following so not sure), then whoever is hosting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hey Marc, you can find all requirements on Meta. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Logistical_needs_for_the_annual_Wikimedia_Conference_2 Hope this helps, Nicole On 18 September 2013 19:19, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 09/18/2013 06:58 AM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-17 Thread Itzik Edri
I singed up. I'll be happy to help with the Location committee. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: would be nice to learn more about the programme committee; who

[Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-16 Thread Nicole Ebber
Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and