Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-10 Thread Pierre-Selim
Well speaking only for myself, I love tacking things seriously and I'm probably a boring guy. However I seems to have a lot of very fun memories of all the wikimedia related time I spent. Selective memory, or somehow dullness might be fun too :) 2015-12-10 16:17 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-10 Thread Milos Rancic
First of all, it's obvious that the part of our movement already suffers from the "old grey man" illusion, although the most of us are not old nor grey. That's typical modernist paradigm, which brought many achievements to our civilization, but also removed decision-making power from the majority

[Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Milos Rancic
We are. It's not about particular thread on this list, it's about our existence. Initially I thought it's because the level of our responsibility, but eventually I've realized we are simply boring and nobody bothers about that. Our meetings and conferences look like the meetings of a regional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Anders Wennersten
Do you imply boring is a bad thing? In a world more and more focusing on show and 10 seconds fame, I am proud and glad to be part of another type of society, where truth, reflection and serious discussions are at focus Donald Trump is one of the least boring people just now, but I would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Jane Darnell
I wouldn't object to more Australians spread around the Wikiverse, and they are always welcome in the Netherlands On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > maybe the movement needs to get a few more Australians around events to > liven things up, as its never

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Gnangarra
maybe the movement needs to get a few more Australians around events to liven things up, as its never boring here... we'll even bring drop bears and other furry creatures to keep people on their toes  On 8 December 2015 at 21:47, Anders Wennersten

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-12-08 17:57, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I like that post, Milos. :) The other day someone suggested to me in a chat Wikipedia should have a function like Skype, or IM, so people could chat about stuff privately. I think it's a great idea. (Obviously you would have to make it so people can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-12-08 17:39, Sebastian Moleski wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Anders Wennersten wrote: Indeed, I would agree with Milos here. I'd like for many of our events to become more approachable by and relatable to the non-nerdy general public. We've built

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I like that post, Milos. :) Frankly I think this is also one of the main reasons why women are not particularly attracted to Wikipedia. There would have to be much more gregariousness and socialising for that to happen (the percentage of women at the movement's social events is always

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Sebastian Moleski
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Anders Wennersten wrote: > Do you imply boring is a bad thing? > > In a world more and more focusing on show and 10 seconds fame, I am proud > and glad to be part of another type of society, where truth, reflection and > serious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread
On 8 December 2015 at 13:36, Milos Rancic wrote: ... > Our meetings and conferences look like the meetings of a regional branch of > German Social Democratic Party at the best. In regular occasions they are > more like the meetings of a village cell of a communist party from an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Carlos Colina (Maor_X)
WellIberocoopians always have fun ;-) Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Milos Rancic" <mill...@gmail.com> To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring? Date: Tue, Dec 8, 2015

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Pine W
I think the term that I would use is "serious". Of course we're serious about the quality of our product. However that can involve plenty of stress and burn-out. We deal with a lot of serious issues: conflicts of interest, harassment, finances, legal compliance, reliability, privacy, safety, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Risker
gt; > Sent from my HTC > > - Reply message - > From: "Milos Rancic" <mill...@gmail.com> > To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring? > Date: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 3:36 PM > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread rupert THURNER
was it fun? On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Mardetanha wrote: > I also concur that best part of wikimania is get to know other wikimedians > and fascinating stories , but nevertheless the workshops are also very > useful. in each wikimania we enjoy both. I learnt a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Chris Keating
Most Wikimedians are very interesting people. However Milos has hit the nail on the head when he says the most interesting things happening at Wikimedia events are 1-1 conversations. In my view we don't have a "personality" problem (and if we did, we couldn't fix it). What we have, at least in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Mardetanha
I also concur that best part of wikimania is get to know other wikimedians and fascinating stories , but nevertheless the workshops are also very useful. in each wikimania we enjoy both. I learnt a lot from them all. Mardetanha On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Chris Keating