Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-11-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear colleagues,

Thank you to all who volunteered to serve on programme team[1].

Continuing my informal facilitation of this team, I will be contacting the
team off-list to schedule a kick-off call to discuss how to go about
planning this event, so as to maximize the benefit to the movement.  My own
preference is for materials to be continually updated and available on
Meta, so as to allow casual participation or ad-hoc comments by anyone
interested (whether or not they are part of a recognized movement
organization).

Watch the event pages on Meta to keep up.  I will also update this list on
major milestones as they take place (perhaps: selection of major themes,
draft programme, final schedule).  I'm sure I speak for the team when I say
we welcome your input on any and all aspects of the programme team's work.

I look forward to a productive event.

Cheers,

   A.

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Programme_team#Team_members

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Reminder: We'd like to finalize the Wikimedia Conference 2015 Program Team
 by Nov 10th.  If you'd like to help craft a high-quality program to make
 sure we make the most of this important (and expensive) face-to-face
 opportunity, do sign up!

 Details here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Programme_team

 In particular, at least one team member from a smaller or newer chapter
 would be great!

A.

 On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Cristian Consonni 
 kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014-10-21 3:40 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:
  Neither I nor WMF are trying to exert undue control over this process;
  rather, I am moving this forward in good faith and relying on other
 people
  to be equally bold in editing (or reverting!) anything I've stated
 there.
 
  Looking forward to making this the most productive WMCON[1] ever! :)

 [...]

  [1] I remain entirely uninterested in what this event gets called.  Feel
  free to advocate for calling it The Great Platypus Appreciation Society
  Gathering of 2015 or anything else, here:
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015

 Speaking of appreciation, thank you Asaf and Ad for caring about this.

 C

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-11-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
Reminder: We'd like to finalize the Wikimedia Conference 2015 Program Team
by Nov 10th.  If you'd like to help craft a high-quality program to make
sure we make the most of this important (and expensive) face-to-face
opportunity, do sign up!

Details here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Programme_team

In particular, at least one team member from a smaller or newer chapter
would be great!

   A.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com
wrote:

 2014-10-21 3:40 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:
  Neither I nor WMF are trying to exert undue control over this process;
  rather, I am moving this forward in good faith and relying on other
 people
  to be equally bold in editing (or reverting!) anything I've stated there.
 
  Looking forward to making this the most productive WMCON[1] ever! :)

 [...]

  [1] I remain entirely uninterested in what this event gets called.  Feel
  free to advocate for calling it The Great Platypus Appreciation Society
  Gathering of 2015 or anything else, here:
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015

 Speaking of appreciation, thank you Asaf and Ad for caring about this.

 C

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-21 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-10-21 3:40 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:
 Neither I nor WMF are trying to exert undue control over this process;
 rather, I am moving this forward in good faith and relying on other people
 to be equally bold in editing (or reverting!) anything I've stated there.

 Looking forward to making this the most productive WMCON[1] ever! :)

[...]

 [1] I remain entirely uninterested in what this event gets called.  Feel
 free to advocate for calling it The Great Platypus Appreciation Society
 Gathering of 2015 or anything else, here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015

Speaking of appreciation, thank you Asaf and Ad for caring about this.

C

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-20 Thread Asaf Bartov
It seems this is uncontroversial, so Ad's super-bold edit can be taken to
finalize the venue.  Thanks again, WMCH! :)

I have boldly taken another step forward, and drafted a description for the
program team's work, here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Programme_team

Neither I nor WMF are trying to exert undue control over this process;
rather, I am moving this forward in good faith and relying on other people
to be equally bold in editing (or reverting!) anything I've stated there.

Looking forward to making this the most productive WMCON[1] ever! :)

A.

[1] I remain entirely uninterested in what this event gets called.  Feel
free to advocate for calling it The Great Platypus Appreciation Society
Gathering of 2015 or anything else, here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl wrote:

 I have updated the page on meta to reflect this decision. [1]
 Next item on the list: determine program committee.
 Could we agree on having James Hare as program committee lead?

 Cheers,

 Ad

 [1]

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Conference_2015diff=10222147oldid=9841671

 2014-10-16 4:22 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:

  Hello, everyone.
 
  Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
  of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
  up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the
 
 
 working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
  whatever we may end up calling it[1].
 
  In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
  light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
  boldly *suggest
  that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
  spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
  *significant
  preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?
 
 Asaf
 
  [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
  successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try
 to
  keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
  [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
  [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this
 is
  still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia
 affiliates.
  [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
  [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
  [6]
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Filip Maljkovic

On 10/16/2014 04:22 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:

Hello, everyone.

Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the
working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
whatever we may end up calling it[1].

In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
boldly *suggest
that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
*significant
preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

[1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
[3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference

Yes, please.

Cheers,
Filip (WMRS)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Pine W
Hi,

I can speak only in a personal capacity.

My occasional readings of information about WMCH have been positive. I
anticipate that visa problems will be no greater than they were at
Wikimania London. The admittedly limited information about the bid sounds
reasonable, as far as it goes. I assume that there will be a thorough
review of the budget and program by WMF and WMCH to ensure that the ROIs
for both organizations are reasonable. It seems to me that *if* this
conference is to be held (I am still a bit skeptical that having this
conference separate from Wikimania makes financial sense), that it is
reasonable to proceed with WMCH as host.

Perhaps the name, scope, purpose, timing, and outcomes of this conference
from past years and for the future can be discussed at the WMCH event.

My understanding is that there is not a community committee that reviews
bids for this conference and that the Chapters Association is likely to
remain in a deep freeze; if the location of this conference is subject to
community consensus, I would vote to support the WMCH bid subject to the
conditions and suggestions I made elsewhere in this email.

Thank you WMCH for offering to host.

Pine


On Oct 15, 2014 7:23 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia
affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Symonds
Well said Asaf.
On 16 Oct 2014 03:24, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

 working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Balázs Viczián
imo (but maybe I'm sitting on the wrong direction on this horse) but once
we have a program it can be installed to any suitable location.

I think it would be great moving that way. WMF and a few chapters have
dedicated people for event organizing, why not use them. Bidding would be
then for _hosting only_, what I am sure would generate dozens of
applications per event.

Not to mention how much easier would it be to keep up the consistency and
the continuity (contentwise) of the events.

Balazs
2014.10.16. 4:24, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org ezt írta:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

 working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Ad Huikeshoven
I have updated the page on meta to reflect this decision. [1]
Next item on the list: determine program committee.
Could we agree on having James Hare as program committee lead?

Cheers,

Ad

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Conference_2015diff=10222147oldid=9841671

2014-10-16 4:22 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

 working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone.

Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the
working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
whatever we may end up calling it[1].

In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
boldly *suggest
that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
*significant
preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

   Asaf

[1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
[3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
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