Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-21 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hello, Chris Keating escreveu no dia quinta, 21/02/2019 à(s) 21:43: > (...) be fair the voices on the Meta page > were a relatively narrow slice of the overall Wikimedia community. > The so called "WMF gap" is a recurrent issue, and was the theme of a "working group proposal" (?) in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-21 Thread Chris Keating
The way I'm making sense of the timeline is: Last summer the Board remembered that the ASBS was coming up (in among all their conversations about the strategy). Probably in July they discussed it for the first time and they asked AffCom to look at a way of including User Groups. At the November

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-21 Thread Strainu
În joi, 21 feb. 2019 la 16:59, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel a scris: > > No, you aren't missing anything. The timeline is strange. > > As Antanana wrote, *"The conversation about how User Groups may participate > in this process has been on for years, it is not a new topic [4]." * > So if it isn't a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-21 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
No, you aren't missing anything. The timeline is strange. As Antanana wrote, *"The conversation about how User Groups may participate in this process has been on for years, it is not a new topic [4]." * So if it isn't a new proposal, why the board jumped to do this change so close to the election

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-20 Thread effe iets anders
As for process.. While I appreciate that this time, the change was at least announced before the vote, and that some board members at least engaged in some conversation - I have yet to see how this was taken into consideration by the board as a whole. It feels like the board already made up its

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-20 Thread Santiago Navarro
In fact, I did not participate in the discussion page on meta about that, because I guessed that my opinion would not be taken in account, neither discussed, and now it seems that, sadly, I was right in that thought. El 2019-02-19 17:25, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel escribió: Antanana and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello, If anyone wants to join the process of administering the election, then you have a chance! Please note that the ultimate authority in this election is the consensus of voting organizations. No individual can speak for those organizations, and instead, volunteers like you can organize the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-19 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hi, I understand that, in face of this decision, something (the "movement"? the affiliates? who?) will have to come up with some process in some place (where?) to viabilize the inclusion of UGs in the Affiliate-selected Board seats (ASBS) 2019 process, which is expected to start in about 45 days.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-19 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Antanana and the board, I find it sad and disappointing that after such a long conversation on the talk page, there wasn't any comment on the talk page or in this statement about the problem of double voting by many UG's members. Did the board even discuss that or we just wasted our time giving

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-19 Thread Nataliia Tymkiv
Hello all! The Wikimedia Foundation Board has unanimously approved the changes to the Bylaws [1] during the last Board meeting on January 30, 2019. This will be covered in the minutes, and the resolution will be published in short order. This change allows the participation of User Groups [2] in