On 27 March 2016 at 23:00, David Emrany wrote:
> You are imposing "modern" 1st world standards on these poor people.
> Many I remind you to remember how many 1st world Commons bureaucrats
> and admins were doing something similar / identical  only a few
> years ago at
Angola is not alone. Bangladesh also started the practice. :-P Now there is
a good number of Facebook groups and pages to do this kind of piracy
related works through Commons.
They are even creating manuals in
So what are you saying? It is ok for people to do dastardly things and
abuse Commons and it is even worse when people at Commons use the
environment they know, the Internet, to do some research and expose what
Really? And I must be impressed when Mr Kolbe asks attention for it??
It's ordinary countervandalism, honestly I cannot find anything
questionable but maybe a missed something.
2016-03-24 9:04 GMT+01:00 David Emrany :
> Dear Gerard
> Correspondingly, what I find unconscionable for us is that a small
> group of Commons editors
Correspondingly, what I find unconscionable for us is that a small
group of Commons editors /admins congregated on the talk page of
'Teles' and discussed how to secretly spy on these new Zeropaid
enabled editors and monitor their Facebook-basic pages , .
IMO had this been more
Personally I'd say "it's 100% wrong" but "not 100% to blame".
I've just made https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130761 IMHO we need to
address the problem form a technical point of view, implicitly discarding
"block'em all" options.
2016-03-23 19:42 GMT+01:00 Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Keegan Peterzell
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>> Actually, I am quite appalled by the article. Whether one wants to see
>> something positive in pirating or not, the Wikimedia
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
> Actually, I am quite appalled by the article. Whether one wants to see
> something positive in pirating or not, the Wikimedia servers are not meant
> for this purpose (for good reasons). Breaking rules and taking abuse
Actually, I am quite appalled by the article. Whether one wants to see
something positive in pirating or not, the Wikimedia servers are not meant
for this purpose (for good reasons). Breaking rules and taking abuse of an
opportunity is not a goal by itself.
Am Mittwoch, 23.
This is an important issue and how Wikimedia and the community handles it
is very important. I would caution that even those who are pirating and
sharing copyrighted materials are not "bad actors," they are people who
have no other file sharing options who have found a creative solution in
Motherboard today has a fairly comprehensive report on this:
Angola’s Wikipedia Pirates Are Exposing the Problems With Digital
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Mwaoshe Njemah
Reminder: Wikipedia Zero is actually a very good thing. We are hoping to
improve the quality and quantity of articles
Siku Ya Wiki Project
On 21 Mar 2016 09:58, "WereSpielChequers"
> Is much of the problem about differing varieties of
WereSpielChequers, the different varieties of Portuguese is not the problem
here. It actually hasn't been a problem for a while. :)))
James and Adele, I am sincerely happy to know that WMF is not only aware of
it but also applying and thinking about measures to solve the problem.
Is much of the problem about differing varieties of Portuguese? Last I
heard the Portuguese language Wikipedia allowed multiple versions of
Portuguese in a similar way to English - i.e. standardised at the article
level not the project level; Though the editing base is much more skewed to
I am with all of those who see this as a positive thing. But perhaps a bit
of gentle curation of their initial experience could be the "fix" that is
needed rather than just cutting any fledgeling editors off altogether. How
about the following ...
reader decides to edit
> clicks on edit
Aye, what Vito said.
For some context the WP0 team reached out to me when the partners started
flagging some of this as well. We've been considering a couple different
options which I think should be wider discussed. Part of that was also a
realization that we needed a way to actually tell if
In a way, it is great to hear that Wikipedia zero is attracting new
editors! That is what I hoped for more than increasing readership.
The general question on how to stimulate positive edits while discouraging
negative contributions is the tricky part. What we always tell outsiders on
why we can
> From: gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:51:07 +0100
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects
> Realistically. Wikipedia is very much an enabler.
Realistically. Wikipedia is very much an enabler.
Your ease to consider "simply" disabling mobile edits or uploads I find
appalling. People in countries like USA or UK are very fortunate. Nobody
would ever argue to disable their edits or uploads. At the same time as a
movement we desperately
Can we have a clear picture of Wikimedia's ‘complicated’ relationship
with net neutrality - 1year on from the Washington Post story 
Can we also have specific figures on how much of WMF's traffic has
been lost / gained from key markets in Latin America and Asia after
Il 19/03/2016 13:57, Gnangarra ha scritto:
outside the US things like copyright isnt respected, enforced or even
part of a person education
We also have
the URAA which even Commons has struggled with swings in interpretation
over the last few years
Definitely a fail of
On 19 March 2016 at 19:30, Benjamin Lees wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Gnangarra wrote:
> > of course I dont expect
> > people to know their copyright laws in detail or to have read them but
> > do know the principles of it and what
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Gnangarra wrote:
> of course I dont expect
> people to know their copyright laws in detail or to have read them but they
> do know the principles of it and what they can do
Are you sure? In the US, at least, industry groups go to a lot of
It is being recently reported on Portuguese Wikipedia and Commons (at
least) the increasing ammount of improper editing coming from IP addresses
located in Angola. Some users believe that this may be related with
Wikipedia Zero and a partnership between WMF and a cellphone company
As the head of the Wikipedia Zero program, I would like to respond and
provide more context to the important challenges you are bringing up.
Last year, the Foundation increased our security and privacy by requiring
HTTPS to access all Wikimedia projects. That change has greatly
some of the issue stems form the copyright laws of Angola, which are really
interesting to read -- read them in english --
https://www.copyright-watch.org/files/Angola.pdf of course I dont expect
people to know their copyright laws in detail or to have read them but they
do know the principles of
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