Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Balázs Viczián
the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than
facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll
have to be present on that.

cheers, Balázs
2013.03.16. 14:17, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@wikimedia.org ezt írta:

 On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  I'm so happy for everyone -- particularly for all the folks in the
  developing world who are now getting access to free knowledge they
 wouldn't
  otherwise have.

 This news was posted on facebook and a guy from Angola just asked when
 it will be available there for the Portuguese Wikipedia as well


 https://www.facebook.com/wikipediapt/posts/228266030650914?comment_id=947903offset=0total_comments=2

 Kul, maybe it would be more useful for Angola and Mozambique than the
 Banana Republic. :)

 When I do the hangouts with Angolans and Mozambicans (on my spare
 time, sure), [Note] I'll analyse this to have a better insight. ;)

 Tom

 [Note] The statistics of a facebook page (led by volunteers) of the
 Portuguese Wikipedia [1]  has shown some curious numbers because
 people who usually like it are from Luanda and Maputo cities in
 Africa, I've shared this information with some wikipedians [2]
 (obviously further analysis on this data with other methods is
 necessary) and invited experienced editors to participate of google
 hangouts where we are going to invite people from these countries to
 explain about Wikipedia and the Education Program. [3]

 Just to you have an idea, Luanda (population ~5 mi) has about 1.700
 people who liked it, Maputo (pop. ~1.2 mi) 750, followed by São Paulo
 (pop. 11.3 mi) and Rio de Janeiro (6.2 mi) with 230 and 180,
 respectively. Maybe there is some bias on facebook we cannot have
 access to, but it will be really interesting to try to figure out that
 and the videos of these hangout can also be really interesting to try
 to understand how people in these countries use Wikipedia. A mobile
 project in these countries could also be interesting, but not sure if
 we can have it in the short term.

 I'll try to do these hangouts withe them, [3] anyone here is welcome to
 help.

 [1] https://www.facebook.com/wikipediapt

 [2]
 http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Estat%C3%ADsticas_sobre_a_Wikip%C3%A9dia_lus%C3%B3fona_atrav%C3%A9s_do_facebook_e_Programa_de_Educa%C3%A7%C3%A3o_na_%C3%81frica_(22fev2013)

 [3]
 http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/propostas/Web_confer%C3%AAncia_sobre_a_Wikip%C3%A9dia_e_o_programa_de_educa%C3%A7%C3%A3o_com_leitores_de_Angola_e_Mo%C3%A7ambique_(22fev2013)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián 
balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

 the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than
 facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll
 have to be present on that.

 cheers, Balázs



 Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that
doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 (
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/)
. Looking at the numbers now (
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site
now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Facebook here is more used than Google and Orkut, but they are well used
to, so... we really don't know why :)


On 17 March 2013 05:29, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián 
 balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

  the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular
 than
  facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there,
 you'll
  have to be present on that.
 
  cheers, Balázs



  Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that
 doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 (

 http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/
 )
 . Looking at the numbers now (
 http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site
 now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Rand McRanderson
Orkut used to dominate outside US and Europe. Then Google took over,
neglected it and Facebook moved in. Classic big company takes small company
and forgets about it
On Mar 17, 2013 11:39 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Facebook here is more used than Google and Orkut, but they are well used
 to, so... we really don't know why :)


 On 17 March 2013 05:29, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián 
  balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:
 
   the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular
  than
   facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there,
  you'll
   have to be present on that.
  
   cheers, Balázs
 
 
 
   Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but
 that
  doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 (
 
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/
  )
  . Looking at the numbers now (
  http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site
  now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ).
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Orkus was never took over by Google - it was created by Google in the
first place and always operated by them.




2013/3/17 Rand McRanderson therands...@gmail.com

 Orkut used to dominate outside US and Europe. Then Google took over,
 neglected it and Facebook moved in. Classic big company takes small company
 and forgets about it
 On Mar 17, 2013 11:39 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
 rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Facebook here is more used than Google and Orkut, but they are well used
  to, so... we really don't know why :)
 
 
  On 17 March 2013 05:29, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián 
   balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:
  
the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more
 popular
   than
facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there,
   you'll
have to be present on that.
   
cheers, Balázs
  
  
  
Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but
  that
   doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 (
  
  
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/
   )
   . Looking at the numbers now (
   http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1
 site
   now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ).
  
   James
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Balázs Viczián
Didn't know, the last time I was working for the Brazilian market was in
2011; should update my knowledge :)

Balázs

2013/3/17 James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com

 On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián 
 balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

  the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular
 than
  facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there,
 you'll
  have to be present on that.
 
  cheers, Balázs



  Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that
 doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 (

 http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/
 )
 . Looking at the numbers now (
 http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site
 now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Hi, Balázs and James,

orkut was the most popular social networking platform until a few
years ago. I don't have scientific research to prove that now, but
from my networking, which includes poor to high middle class people,
most have migrated to facebook. orkut is seen as a site where low
middle class and poor people access, which is true if youu visit a Lan
House in a slum in São Paulo - last time I went I've seen people using
both, orkut and facebook. All my friends from a slum I've worked in a
educational project near University of São Paulo use facebook, for
instance. James link also confirms that.

According to this Wall Street Journal news on social media in Brazil
[1], Facebook Inc. has some 65 million users in Brazil, which makes
it the company's second largest market after the U.S. by number of
users, according to social-analytics company Socialbakers.

Also People in Brazil are spending increasing amounts of time
connected to social-media sites. Globally, the average time spent on
Facebook dropped 2% to 361 average minutes per user per month by
September 2012, compared with a year earlier, according to comScore
research.

But in Brazil, Facebook time grew 208% to 535 minutes over the same
period. [...]

Quite a lot to understand and this makes the data of this facebook
page more striking.

Tom

[1] Brazil: The Social Media Capital of the Universe:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323301104578257950857891898.html
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-16 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I'm so happy for everyone -- particularly for all the folks in the
 developing world who are now getting access to free knowledge they wouldn't
 otherwise have.

This news was posted on facebook and a guy from Angola just asked when
it will be available there for the Portuguese Wikipedia as well

https://www.facebook.com/wikipediapt/posts/228266030650914?comment_id=947903offset=0total_comments=2

Kul, maybe it would be more useful for Angola and Mozambique than the
Banana Republic. :)

When I do the hangouts with Angolans and Mozambicans (on my spare
time, sure), [Note] I'll analyse this to have a better insight. ;)

Tom

[Note] The statistics of a facebook page (led by volunteers) of the
Portuguese Wikipedia [1]  has shown some curious numbers because
people who usually like it are from Luanda and Maputo cities in
Africa, I've shared this information with some wikipedians [2]
(obviously further analysis on this data with other methods is
necessary) and invited experienced editors to participate of google
hangouts where we are going to invite people from these countries to
explain about Wikipedia and the Education Program. [3]

Just to you have an idea, Luanda (population ~5 mi) has about 1.700
people who liked it, Maputo (pop. ~1.2 mi) 750, followed by São Paulo
(pop. 11.3 mi) and Rio de Janeiro (6.2 mi) with 230 and 180,
respectively. Maybe there is some bias on facebook we cannot have
access to, but it will be really interesting to try to figure out that
and the videos of these hangout can also be really interesting to try
to understand how people in these countries use Wikipedia. A mobile
project in these countries could also be interesting, but not sure if
we can have it in the short term.

I'll try to do these hangouts withe them, [3] anyone here is welcome to help.

[1] https://www.facebook.com/wikipediapt

[2] 
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Estat%C3%ADsticas_sobre_a_Wikip%C3%A9dia_lus%C3%B3fona_atrav%C3%A9s_do_facebook_e_Programa_de_Educa%C3%A7%C3%A3o_na_%C3%81frica_(22fev2013)

[3] 
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/propostas/Web_confer%C3%AAncia_sobre_a_Wikip%C3%A9dia_e_o_programa_de_educa%C3%A7%C3%A3o_com_leitores_de_Angola_e_Mo%C3%A7ambique_(22fev2013)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-14 Thread Kul Wadhwa
Hi Orsolya,

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Orsolya Gyenes 
gyenes.orso...@wiki.media.hu wrote:

 Is there a blog post or a press release about it?


The blog post is up:

http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/13/wikipedia-zero-wins-2013-sxsw-interactive-activism-award/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-14 Thread Orsolya Gyenes
Thank you!

Can't wait to be launched in Hungary! ;)
*~Orsolya*


2013/3/14 Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org

 Hi Orsolya,

 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Orsolya Gyenes 
 gyenes.orso...@wiki.media.hu wrote:

  Is there a blog post or a press release about it?
 

 The blog post is up:


 http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/13/wikipedia-zero-wins-2013-sxsw-interactive-activism-award/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Fabrice Florin
Congratulations, you guys!

I'm so happy for everyone -- particularly for all the folks in the developing 
world who are now getting access to free knowledge they wouldn't otherwise have.

That's really uplifting in so many ways -- well done!


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 Congratulations!
 
 Viva le revolution!!
 
 -Sarah
 
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 Hey all,
 
 Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!
 
 A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Congrats to all!

Jan-Bart


On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:28 AM, Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org wrote:

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 Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!
 
 A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Stevie Benton
Brilliant - congratulations from the UK!

Stevie

On 13 March 2013 09:23, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Congrats to all!

 Jan-Bart


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  Hey all,
 
  Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Orsolya Gyenes
Congratulations from Hungary!

This is amazing, thank you for your hard work!
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2013/3/13 Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org

 Hey all,

 Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!

 A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Shabab Mustafa
That's Awesome! Congratz!
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 Congratulations from Hungary!

 This is amazing, thank you for your hard work!
 *~Orsolya*


 2013/3/13 Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org

  Hey all,
 
  Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!
 
  A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive
Congrtz..


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  Congratulations from Hungary!
 
  This is amazing, thank you for your hard work!
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  2013/3/13 Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org
 
   Hey all,
  
   Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!
  
   A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
That is so cool! Congratulations!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Oona Castro
Congratulations to all involved!

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
WOW.  This is totally, thoroughly wonderful.

David Sch. writes:
 I am certain that the badassitude of our award photo overwhelms any and all
 skepticism the Internet might -- TOTALLY unjustly[1][2][3] -- feel about SXSW.

Where is the mythical award photo of which you speak?  SJ

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 Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Stephen LaPorte
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where is the mythical award photo of which you speak?  SJ


Mythical award photo:
https://twitter.com/thekulway/status/311636200979054592


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-12 Thread Kul Wadhwa
Hey all,

Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!

A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-12 Thread Sarah Stierch

Congratulations!

Viva le revolution!!

-Sarah

On 3/12/13 6:28 PM, Kul Wadhwa wrote:

Hey all,

Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!

A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-12 Thread Ivan Martínez
Awesome!
Poca madre ;)

El martes, 12 de marzo de 2013, Sarah Stierch escribió:

 Congratulations!

 Viva le revolution!!

 -Sarah

 On 3/12/13 6:28 PM, Kul Wadhwa wrote:

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-12 Thread Tonmoy Khan
Congratulations:)

Tonmoy
On Mar 13, 2013 9:01 AM, Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Awesome!
 Poca madre ;)

 El martes, 12 de marzo de 2013, Sarah Stierch escribió:

  Congratulations!
 
  Viva le revolution!!
 
  -Sarah
 
  On 3/12/13 6:28 PM, Kul Wadhwa wrote:
 
  Hey all,
 
  Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!
 
  A big thanks to all of you for keeping knowledge free for EVERYONE!
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-12 Thread David Schoonover
I am certain that the badassitude of our award photo overwhelms any and all
skepticism the Internet might -- TOTALLY unjustly[1][2][3] -- feel about
SXSW.


[1]
http://www.theonion.com/articles/sxsw-as-cool-and-as-real-as-it-gets-reports-market,31617/
[2]
http://www.theonion.com/articles/word-innovate-said-65-times-at-sxsw-so-far,31618/
[3]
http://www.theonion.com/articles/arm-hammer-representative-starting-to-wonder-what,31639/

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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Tonmoy Khan tonmoy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations:)

 Tonmoy
 On Mar 13, 2013 9:01 AM, Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com wrote:

  Awesome!
  Poca madre ;)
 
  El martes, 12 de marzo de 2013, Sarah Stierch escribió:
 
   Congratulations!
  
   Viva le revolution!!
  
   -Sarah
  
   On 3/12/13 6:28 PM, Kul Wadhwa wrote:
  
   Hey all,
  
   Wikipedia Zero just won the Activism Award @ SXSW!
  
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