Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
* We will try to encourage prisoners to contribute and try to animate Wikipedia centric activities - similar approach as in the Afripedia project. Regarding the asynchronous contributions: This is a pretty complicated topic which (often) deals with challenging technical and cultural issues. But discussion if pretty open and new experimentations are welcome. If users can not have direct write access to Wikimedia projects, I wonder if a proxy system could be set-up whereas they could write letters and the letters get scanned and posted. Instructions could be provided in offline versions of Wikipedia and whatnot that would tell people to write a letter to some address (maybe they could provide a username in their letter). Volunteers could then scan those letters and upload a file attachment (and/or transcription) of that letter to the user page. When possible, such users could provide instructions on how to write to them. Ideally, I would imagine such a project being set-up outside of Wikimedia and simply providing for a way for people without write access to the Internet could do such a thing. However, in the meantime, I think setting up a Wikimedia by Proxy project separate from any one project under the Wikimedia umbrella could be a nice way to begin. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Hi Robert, no censoring, filtering, or monitoring. Its the full French wikipedia. Afaiu emmanuel it was not discussed, but he explicitly pointed out that all articles are there including the ones about arms. Rupert Am 19.06.2013 03:46 schrieb Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com: Very cool. I'm curious, did the prison have any concerns about content or want things filtered out? I've know that some prisons don't allow reading material that is sexual, violent, etc. Did restrictions like that have to be considered? Obviously, most of Wikipedia is pretty mundane, but if you look hard enough I'm sure some people might find things to object to. -Robert Rohde On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
The problem with static offline versions of Wikipedia is that it doesn't allow any interaction at all, so you are virtually cutting off the ability of the reader to become an editor. I am sure many people will feel that prisoners probably don't have a lot of positive information to contribute, or perhaps would not do this in good faith, but theoretically there should be some channel back for them to voice corrections or additions, possibly through some sort of local collaboration committee? I think this application of Wikipedia is great, but it is also crippled. If we had an incubator system where this type of offline application of Wikipedia could collect edits in a daily batch process for intermediate curation it would be good. Something like this might also useful for education programs with kindergartens or grade schools. We have claimed in the past that a 17-year-old can be smarter than a Ph.D. on any specific issue, but actually, age or environment is arbitrary, no? 2013/6/19, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com: Hi Robert, no censoring, filtering, or monitoring. Its the full French wikipedia. Afaiu emmanuel it was not discussed, but he explicitly pointed out that all articles are there including the ones about arms. Rupert Am 19.06.2013 03:46 schrieb Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com: Very cool. I'm curious, did the prison have any concerns about content or want things filtered out? I've know that some prisons don't allow reading material that is sexual, violent, etc. Did restrictions like that have to be considered? Obviously, most of Wikipedia is pretty mundane, but if you look hard enough I'm sure some people might find things to object to. -Robert Rohde On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Dear Jane Le 19/06/2013 10:37, Jane Darnell a écrit : The problem with static offline versions of Wikipedia is that it doesn't allow any interaction at all, so you are virtually cutting off the ability of the reader to become an editor. I am sure many people will feel that prisoners probably don't have a lot of positive information to contribute, or perhaps would not do this in good faith, but theoretically there should be some channel back for them to voice corrections or additions, possibly through some sort of local collaboration committee? I think this application of Wikipedia is great, but it is also crippled. If we had an incubator system where this type of offline application of Wikipedia could collect edits in a daily batch process for intermediate curation it would be good. Something like this might also useful for education programs with kindergartens or grade schools. We have claimed in the past that a 17-year-old can be smarter than a Ph.D. on any specific issue, but actually, age or environment is arbitrary, no? I agree. The problem with life is that you will never get everything you want. The good news is: You still have plenty of opportunities and this is already a lot! More seriously: * We know this is used as an entry door for other cultural/educative activities by part of the prisoners * We will try to encourage prisoners to contribute and try to animate Wikipedia centric activities - similar approach as in the Afripedia project. Regarding the asynchronous contributions: This is a pretty complicated topic which (often) deals with challenging technical and cultural issues. But discussion if pretty open and new experimentations are welcome. Join us at: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/offline-l Kind regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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2013-06-19, 10:13, skrev rupert THURNER: Hi Robert, no censoring, filtering, or monitoring. Its the full French wikipedia. Afaiu emmanuel it was not discussed, but he explicitly pointed out that all articles are there including the ones about arms. Interesting. Do you know how much data that involves? The last count here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaFR.htm is from 2009 (3.5 GB), so I guess even now it will be easily manageable. Best of wishes, /Per ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Hello and thanks Bishaka, We planned two type of post about this story, today or tomorrow we should publish a short one about the genesis of the project and the relation volunteer/staff. As president of Wikimedia CH I'm very proud of the work accomplish by Emmanuel and Chantal, and we would like to share more about this aspect of the project. The second post will arrive later this year with more information about the project itself and its usage. Thanks too, SJ, unexpected refers more to there eager of the newspaper. It's really rare, if not totally absent, to read positive things about prisons. In this way, the public expect bad news when talking about prison, and when a nice story about prison arise, it's unexpected. :-) Sincerely ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 18 juin 2013 à 10:52, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com a écrit : Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Charles, this is an amazing initiative. Thanks for sharing, I think we could probably try to do something similar in Argentina. Patricio 2013/6/19 Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com: Hello and thanks Bishaka, We planned two type of post about this story, today or tomorrow we should publish a short one about the genesis of the project and the relation volunteer/staff. As president of Wikimedia CH I'm very proud of the work accomplish by Emmanuel and Chantal, and we would like to share more about this aspect of the project. The second post will arrive later this year with more information about the project itself and its usage. Thanks too, SJ, unexpected refers more to there eager of the newspaper. It's really rare, if not totally absent, to read positive things about prisons. In this way, the public expect bad news when talking about prison, and when a nice story about prison arise, it's unexpected. :-) Sincerely ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 18 juin 2013 à 10:52, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com a écrit : Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Perhaps there is a better channel to discuss that, but why Kiwix is only Wikipedia especially since the French Wiktionary is one of the most developed? JP 2013/6/19, Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com: Charles, this is an amazing initiative. Thanks for sharing, I think we could probably try to do something similar in Argentina. Patricio 2013/6/19 Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com: Hello and thanks Bishaka, We planned two type of post about this story, today or tomorrow we should publish a short one about the genesis of the project and the relation volunteer/staff. As president of Wikimedia CH I'm very proud of the work accomplish by Emmanuel and Chantal, and we would like to share more about this aspect of the project. The second post will arrive later this year with more information about the project itself and its usage. Thanks too, SJ, unexpected refers more to there eager of the newspaper. It's really rare, if not totally absent, to read positive things about prisons. In this way, the public expect bad news when talking about prison, and when a nice story about prison arise, it's unexpected. :-) Sincerely ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 18 juin 2013 à 10:52, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com a écrit : Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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That's a really nice initiative indeed! Em 19/06/2013 08:16, Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com escreveu: Charles, this is an amazing initiative. Thanks for sharing, I think we could probably try to do something similar in Argentina. Patricio 2013/6/19 Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com: Hello and thanks Bishaka, We planned two type of post about this story, today or tomorrow we should publish a short one about the genesis of the project and the relation volunteer/staff. As president of Wikimedia CH I'm very proud of the work accomplish by Emmanuel and Chantal, and we would like to share more about this aspect of the project. The second post will arrive later this year with more information about the project itself and its usage. Thanks too, SJ, unexpected refers more to there eager of the newspaper. It's really rare, if not totally absent, to read positive things about prisons. In this way, the public expect bad news when talking about prison, and when a nice story about prison arise, it's unexpected. :-) Sincerely ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 18 juin 2013 à 10:52, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com a écrit : Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Le 19/06/2013 15:23, JP Béland a écrit : Perhaps there is a better channel to discuss that, but why Kiwix is only Wikipedia especially since the French Wiktionary is one of the most developed? Lack of time :( On the agenda :) Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Interesting, strange and scary at the same time. Unfortunately I don't see much chance with such a program here in Hungary; at least not in that prison where I did time... 2x10 hours to do a contract photo job before christmas in 3 consecutive years :) I bet if you check the stats what pages they've visited, it will be almost exclusively porn an maybe some prison break stuff :) Congrats WMCH for such a unique program! Balazs 2013/6/19 Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com Charles, this is an amazing initiative. Thanks for sharing, I think we could probably try to do something similar in Argentina. Patricio 2013/6/19 Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com: Hello and thanks Bishaka, We planned two type of post about this story, today or tomorrow we should publish a short one about the genesis of the project and the relation volunteer/staff. As president of Wikimedia CH I'm very proud of the work accomplish by Emmanuel and Chantal, and we would like to share more about this aspect of the project. The second post will arrive later this year with more information about the project itself and its usage. Thanks too, SJ, unexpected refers more to there eager of the newspaper. It's really rare, if not totally absent, to read positive things about prisons. In this way, the public expect bad news when talking about prison, and when a nice story about prison arise, it's unexpected. :-) Sincerely ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 18 juin 2013 à 10:52, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com a écrit : Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello and thanks Bishaka, We planned two type of post about this story, today or tomorrow we should publish a short one about the genesis of the project and the relation volunteer/staff. Charles, If you're inclined, I'd be happy to syndicate your post on the Wikimedia blog, or however you might want to approach it. I think it would be great to get this as much attention as we can. If you're interested, we often draft on Meta wiki here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts Please also let me know if you're doing social media messages about it, as we can repeat/share/retweet etc from the Wikip/media accounts. -Matthew As president of Wikimedia CH I'm very proud of the work accomplish by Emmanuel and Chantal, and we would like to share more about this aspect of the project. The second post will arrive later this year with more information about the project itself and its usage. Thanks too, SJ, unexpected refers more to there eager of the newspaper. It's really rare, if not totally absent, to read positive things about prisons. In this way, the public expect bad news when talking about prison, and when a nice story about prison arise, it's unexpected. :-) Sincerely ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 18 juin 2013 à 10:52, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com a écrit : Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
This is a really wonderful project, I am a big believer in producing educational opportunities to gaoled prisoners so that they can lead more productive lives upon their release, and hopefully this project goes a little way towards making that happen. Bravo, Wikimedia CH! Cheers, Craig Franklin On 18 June 2013 00:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Very cool. I'm curious, did the prison have any concerns about content or want things filtered out? I've know that some prisons don't allow reading material that is sexual, violent, etc. Did restrictions like that have to be considered? Obviously, most of Wikipedia is pretty mundane, but if you look hard enough I'm sure some people might find things to object to. -Robert Rohde On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
