[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Tom Morris
Some friends asked me today about the Wikivoyage launch, and the reasoning 
behind it. 

I hopped over to https://blog.wikimedia.org/ and found... nothing.

Then I went to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room and also 
found... nothing.

Any reason why the Foundation hasn't published anything about the official 
launch of Wikivoyage? It'd be quite useful to be able to point my enquiring 
friends to oh, this is what the Foundation are saying about it, but 
apparently the Foundation aren't saying anything about it. 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Stevie Benton
Hi Tom et al,

There is indeed a release - but it is embargoed until 1600 GMT / 0800 PST...

It's uploaded to the WMUK blog in readiness to go live at the appointed
hour. I am absolutely certain that the Foundation are equally prepared.

Hope this is helpful,

Stevie

On 15 January 2013 14:35, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:

 Some friends asked me today about the Wikivoyage launch, and the reasoning
 behind it.

 I hopped over to https://blog.wikimedia.org/ and found... nothing.

 Then I went to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room and also
 found... nothing.

 Any reason why the Foundation hasn't published anything about the official
 launch of Wikivoyage? It'd be quite useful to be able to point my enquiring
 friends to oh, this is what the Foundation are saying about it, but
 apparently the Foundation aren't saying anything about it.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Jay Walsh
Matthew distributed the release and the blog post this morning (around 0900
PT), it should have made its way to this list as well:

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Foundation_launches_Wikivoyage
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/15/wikimedia-foundation-launches-wikivoyage-a-free-worldwide-travel-guide-that-anyone-can-edit/

Also, happy birthday, Wikipedia! And welcome to our new friends at
Wikivoyage :)

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Stevie Benton 
stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Hi Tom et al,

 There is indeed a release - but it is embargoed until 1600 GMT / 0800
 PST...

 It's uploaded to the WMUK blog in readiness to go live at the appointed
 hour. I am absolutely certain that the Foundation are equally prepared.

 Hope this is helpful,

 Stevie

 On 15 January 2013 14:35, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:

  Some friends asked me today about the Wikivoyage launch, and the
 reasoning
  behind it.
 
  I hopped over to https://blog.wikimedia.org/ and found... nothing.
 
  Then I went to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room and also
  found... nothing.
 
  Any reason why the Foundation hasn't published anything about the
 official
  launch of Wikivoyage? It'd be quite useful to be able to point my
 enquiring
  friends to oh, this is what the Foundation are saying about it, but
  apparently the Foundation aren't saying anything about it.
 
  --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Matthew Roth
Drat, my apologies. I forwarded to Wikimedia-l and neglected to send here.
Busy morning :/

-Matthew

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Matthew distributed the release and the blog post this morning (around 0900
 PT), it should have made its way to this list as well:


 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Foundation_launches_Wikivoyage

 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/15/wikimedia-foundation-launches-wikivoyage-a-free-worldwide-travel-guide-that-anyone-can-edit/

 Also, happy birthday, Wikipedia! And welcome to our new friends at
 Wikivoyage :)

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Stevie Benton 
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

  Hi Tom et al,
 
  There is indeed a release - but it is embargoed until 1600 GMT / 0800
  PST...
 
  It's uploaded to the WMUK blog in readiness to go live at the appointed
  hour. I am absolutely certain that the Foundation are equally prepared.
 
  Hope this is helpful,
 
  Stevie
 
  On 15 January 2013 14:35, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
 
   Some friends asked me today about the Wikivoyage launch, and the
  reasoning
   behind it.
  
   I hopped over to https://blog.wikimedia.org/ and found... nothing.
  
   Then I went to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room and
 also
   found... nothing.
  
   Any reason why the Foundation hasn't published anything about the
  official
   launch of Wikivoyage? It'd be quite useful to be able to point my
  enquiring
   friends to oh, this is what the Foundation are saying about it, but
   apparently the Foundation aren't saying anything about it.
  
   --
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   http://tommorris.org/
  
  
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Lodewijk
Hi,

maybe it would be good to consider at some point in the near future the
timing of press releases, embargoes etc - keeping our international climate
in mind. Unfortunately SF is quite at the far edge of timezone-land, and
when we want to announce something on a certain date, that can indeed be
confusing this way. We faced the same problems at Wiki Loves Monuments
(where we mostly used European timezones, as the vast majority of the
countries was in that), and some good thoughts about the general issue
would definitely be welcome. Maybe not today though.

Best,

Lodewijk

2013/1/15 Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org

 Drat, my apologies. I forwarded to Wikimedia-l and neglected to send here.
 Busy morning :/

 -Matthew

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  Matthew distributed the release and the blog post this morning (around
 0900
  PT), it should have made its way to this list as well:
 
 
 
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Foundation_launches_Wikivoyage
 
 
 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/15/wikimedia-foundation-launches-wikivoyage-a-free-worldwide-travel-guide-that-anyone-can-edit/
 
  Also, happy birthday, Wikipedia! And welcome to our new friends at
  Wikivoyage :)
 
  On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Stevie Benton 
  stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
   Hi Tom et al,
  
   There is indeed a release - but it is embargoed until 1600 GMT / 0800
   PST...
  
   It's uploaded to the WMUK blog in readiness to go live at the appointed
   hour. I am absolutely certain that the Foundation are equally prepared.
  
   Hope this is helpful,
  
   Stevie
  
   On 15 January 2013 14:35, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
  
Some friends asked me today about the Wikivoyage launch, and the
   reasoning
behind it.
   
I hopped over to https://blog.wikimedia.org/ and found... nothing.
   
Then I went to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room and
  also
found... nothing.
   
Any reason why the Foundation hasn't published anything about the
   official
launch of Wikivoyage? It'd be quite useful to be able to point my
   enquiring
friends to oh, this is what the Foundation are saying about it, but
apparently the Foundation aren't saying anything about it.
   
--
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http://tommorris.org/
   
   
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 January 2013 21:07, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 maybe it would be good to consider at some point in the near future the
 timing of press releases, embargoes etc - keeping our international climate
 in mind. Unfortunately SF is quite at the far edge of timezone-land, and
 when we want to announce something on a certain date, that can indeed be
 confusing this way. We faced the same problems at Wiki Loves Monuments
 (where we mostly used European timezones, as the vast majority of the
 countries was in that), and some good thoughts about the general issue
 would definitely be welcome. Maybe not today though.


There's a timezone other than UTC?


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Richard Symonds
There's GMT. That's not FAR off UTC. Maybe we can compromise there ;-)
/joke
On Jan 15, 2013 9:16 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15 January 2013 21:07, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

  maybe it would be good to consider at some point in the near future the
  timing of press releases, embargoes etc - keeping our international
 climate
  in mind. Unfortunately SF is quite at the far edge of timezone-land, and
  when we want to announce something on a certain date, that can indeed be
  confusing this way. We faced the same problems at Wiki Loves Monuments
  (where we mostly used European timezones, as the vast majority of the
  countries was in that), and some good thoughts about the general issue
  would definitely be welcome. Maybe not today though.


 There's a timezone other than UTC?


 - d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 January 2013 21:15, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a timezone other than UTC?

Only in summer. HTH.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Philippe Beaudette
This is what happens when you people get an empire, isn't it?  :-)

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On Jan 15, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 There's GMT. That's not FAR off UTC. Maybe we can compromise there ;-)
 /joke
 On Jan 15, 2013 9:16 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15 January 2013 21:07, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 maybe it would be good to consider at some point in the near future the
 timing of press releases, embargoes etc - keeping our international
 climate
 in mind. Unfortunately SF is quite at the far edge of timezone-land, and
 when we want to announce something on a certain date, that can indeed be
 confusing this way. We faced the same problems at Wiki Loves Monuments
 (where we mostly used European timezones, as the vast majority of the
 countries was in that), and some good thoughts about the general issue
 would definitely be welcome. Maybe not today though.


 There's a timezone other than UTC?


 - d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Matthew Walker
I think we should all just use TAI. None of this nonsense about leap days,
or pesky little quibbles about leap seconds. God forbid the notion of
daylight savings.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:

 On 15 January 2013 21:15, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
  There's a timezone other than UTC?

 Only in summer. HTH.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 January 2013 21:45, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 This is what happens when you people get an empire, isn't it?  :-)


They're not too bad a bunch once you get used to them. You can always
beat them at games they invented.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Nathan
The objects of a press embargo are to, as I understand it, coordinate the
release of information and make sure that staff are available to answer
questions or react to developments after release. I'm sure the WMF has some
flexibility within their normal business hours, but... as with any global
enterprise, any timezone you pick is going to bug someone somewhere.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Snow

On 1/15/2013 1:51 PM, David Gerard wrote:

On 15 January 2013 21:45, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:

This is what happens when you people get an empire, isn't it?  :-)

They're not too bad a bunch once you get used to them. You can always
beat them at games they invented.
Even better, distort those games into vaguely recognizable new forms and 
pretend that you invented them yourself.


--Michael Snow

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