Re: [Wikimedia-l] investments still poor; return improved +0.3% to 1.5%

2016-12-12 Thread James Salsman
James Heilman wrote: > > I personally invest in stuff that gives 1.5% to 1.7% returns Whether you call it fake news, disinformation, public relations, manufactured consent, astroturfing, propaganda, or simply clever advertising campaigning, bankers are thrilled when people think such returns

Re: [Wikimedia-l] investments still poor; return improved +0.3% to 1.5%

2016-12-12 Thread Vi to
10% would imply a pretty high risk or a strategy which is not compatible WMF's values. 3-4% would balance risks with profits, there are pretty safe senior bonds with a 2-3% yield which could balance some less-than-best rated bond giving up to 6%. Anyway WMF's mission imply low risks in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] investments still poor; return improved +0.3% to 1.5%

2016-12-12 Thread James Heilman
I personally invest in stuff that gives 1.5% to 1.7% returns (the Canadian government mostly). If that is what the foundation is getting it sounds reasonable to me. Some "bankers" do really well as they have inside details / are building the financial instruments that they are betting against.

[Wikimedia-l] investments still poor; return improved +0.3% to 1.5%

2016-12-12 Thread James Salsman
Over the past decade, the Foundation's low rate of return on investments has been dismal and embarassing, in part because it reflects poor choices in the use of donors' money and sets a terrible example. The ease with which the Foundation can raise funds is simply not compatible with purchasing