Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-21 Thread Oliver Keyes
I can't speak for your second question, but on the first: have you used Wordpress? The interface is fairly intuitive and obfuscates many of the ways to make the site go kablooey - not all, but many. As someone who has been an admin on their own Wordpress install for years (something that is true

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-20 Thread rupert THURNER
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:54 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2013 15:40, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not the right person to say it categorically, but as far as I'm aware, there haven't been any non-staff Admin level users on the blog, at least for some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Huib Laurens
It had volunteer administrators untill 6 months ago. Huib On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: While i fully understand that contents on a domain called wikimediafoundation should be foundation managed (i see your point though that a notification

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi Huib, we are currently reorganizing the internal communication about the Foundation's blog, and in the process have just removed your subscription. The list is going to see more confidential information in the future, and we want to focus membership more on people who need to know it. I want

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread James Alexander
Huib: Was that the blog mailing list? I'm not actually sure that's in use at all anymore (I was never on it, I just assumed the discussions basically just moved to comcom). James Alexander Manager, Merchandise Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Huib Laurens
It was the explanation for both, I have some more communication: -- Forwarded message -- From: Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org Date: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Error on Blog while moderating To: Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com I can, but I'll be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi Huib, thanks for correcting your earlier claim in the main thread that you were never notified about this kind of thing (although unfortunately this correction comes only after your claim already contributed to leaving MZ a little speechless and feeling more and more ... distanced from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Fae
On 13 May 2013 12:00, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... Curiously, here you left out one sentence from my 2011 email: And while I don't want to pass judgment over your work on the projects, the fact that you are currently blocked on Meta etc. makes it difficult to justify keeping

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: Tillman, For the record, the time between your e-mail and my request why the rights where removed is FOUR days. That's a completely wrong statement. I emailed you as soon as I removed you from the wikimedia-blog list.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2013 12:00, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... Curiously, here you left out one sentence from my 2011 email: And while I don't want to pass judgment over your work on the projects, the fact that you are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Fae
On 13 May 2013 12:42, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: By the way, I am unclear, was the email you are quoting extensively from, rather than summarizing, a public correspondence, or are you choosing to publish it now, on a permanently and publicly archived email list, two year later?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Craig Franklin
All other things aside, misspelling the person's name and then calling them an asshole is hardly likely to lead to an amicable solution, peace, love, or understanding, is it? On 13 May 2013 21:09, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: Tillman, For the record, the time between your e-mail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Huib Laurens
I see I do have the timeframe wrong with the e-mails. Sorry for that, that means I need to look up to other e-mails and send with Jay also. So far I will stand by my claim. I just had the wrong e-mails. But now you are saying you removed me 4 months after the RFC you removed me from the blog and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Given that the deadline for the list moderators passed several days ago, may be could voluntarily stop at this point with the thread and not really try to figure out whether moderators are needed? Cheers Yaroslav On 13.05.2013 13:57, Huib Laurens wrote: I take the asshole back. Sorry for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Fae
On 13 May 2013 12:54, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: All other things aside, misspelling the person's name and then calling them an asshole is hardly likely to lead to an amicable solution, peace, love, or understanding, is it? That's correct. However I think we all recognize,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: What I struggle to understand is that the Foundation was consulting about methods of making the blog more open which was intended, from what I understand, to allow more community members to manage it. I'm not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 13 May 2013 12:00, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: Actually, you were the only volunteer removed at that point in 2011 - there were at least four volunteers who I think are still on the list. As indicated in the part of my email that you chose to quietly suppress, a main reason to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 13 May 2013 13:02, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for clarifying why Huib had his blog access revoked Tilman. Please could you clarify why Casey and Alex (who haven't been socking, at least not to my knowledge!) had their access revoked without notification? Ah I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Eddy Paine
Hello, A strange thing about the conversation that was going on before it escalated isn't addressed at all. Something is happening on Meta. The community takes action and then a few months later everything is passed and the user is unblocked and working happily again. But then *BOOM* a

[Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Dan Rosenthal
While we are waiting, if Matthew could also check whether I still have my access rights to the blog, if I do I would appreciate them being removed as I do not need them. On Monday, May 13, 2013, Thehelpfulone wrote: On 13 May 2013 13:02, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Matthew Roth
wow, what a weekend to go camping :) I'll also reply to Casey and Alex on the other thread, but I was the one who changed their user rights from Editor to Contributor, which in our WordPress setup limits some of their abilities, like approving comments, uploading files and editing posts written

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 May 2013 15:40, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not the right person to say it categorically, but as far as I'm aware, there haven't been any non-staff Admin level users on the blog, at least for some time (again, I've only been at the Foundation for two years and I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Huib Laurens
Tilman, But with that said there is still no answer in why did you wait untill 3 months after the RFC when I was deblocked before you removed the rights? And did you talked with you're co-workers or even ur boss (Jay) about it? Huib ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread MZMcBride
Tilman Bayer wrote: thanks for correcting your earlier claim in the main thread that you were never notified about this kind of thing (although unfortunately this correction comes only after your claim already contributed to leaving MZ a little speechless and feeling more and more ... distanced

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-12 Thread Florence Devouard
On 5/11/13 10:03 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On 11.05.2013 21:26, David Gerard wrote: On 11 May 2013 19:45, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: i would have expected a movement blog behind this URL, appropriate to the usage of the domain, but i am not sure if i am completely

[Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: I'm not going to respond to all the points raised in your e-mail, Sue (partially because most of them are just too general), so let me just mentioned some of them. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Sue Gardner

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 May 2013 19:45, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: i would have expected a movement blog behind this URL, appropriate to the usage of the domain, but i am not sure if i am completely misreading this? Comcom has been actively seeking more contributions from people other than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 11.05.2013 21:26, David Gerard wrote: On 11 May 2013 19:45, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: i would have expected a movement blog behind this URL, appropriate to the usage of the domain, but i am not sure if i am completely misreading this? Comcom has been actively seeking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Oliver Keyes
No, ComCom is the communications committee. It's made up of people who are movement spokespeople/otherwise have an interest in communication, by my understanding. That's obviously going to include Chapters people, but it's not limited to it. On 11 May 2013 21:03, Yaroslav M. Blanter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread James Forrester
On 11 May 2013 13:03, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: At this point I am lost. Comcom is made of the representative of chapters, right? (I just happen to know this because the representatives of the Russian chapter there have hmm... complicated relations with the communities of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 May 2013 21:03, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: At this point I am lost. Comcom is made of the representative of chapters, right? (I just happen to know this because the representatives of the Russian chapter there have hmm... complicated relations with the communities of