Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:33:31 + From: Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched Message-ID: CAF0qKV0enH4_EwrnLYoPUOGwiDrjRHBfBuLQY1Pv2JiDfCD= m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-22 Thread Mike Dupont
Well I am listening, am open to criticism and willing to put work into helping, but as l long as I can continue legally and morally I will. But I will have to spend more time to review the known copyright violations and I am going to make some program to watch and flag articles that are known

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-22 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: The articles are hosted on archive.org, and then transfered to wikia, I could make some review tools, but where to host them? mike Well, why do you want to host them? Or, more specifically, why do you want to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-22 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, I created the wika because the archive.org is so hard to use and slow. I want to be able to share articles with people, and I have been contacting all the twitter users to tell them about the articles (after checking and updating them). I want to host them, at least the good ones to give

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 July 2012 04:16, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Before trying to change New Page Patrol, you should try doing New Page Patrol for a few days. +1 I'm broadly an inclusionist, but reading a few hours' Special:Newpages is enough to have me breaking out the flamethrower. Anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 July 2012 07:09, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: The problem with new articles from these places, and like india is that they have a very high deletion rate, and we need a way to save them. I am willing to put work into the articles on bands, artists, movies, atheletes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-21 Thread Mike Dupont
John, and others. I have finally figured out a big problem with my plan. The articles for deletion are not tagged peoperly at all. There are authors who know for a fact that articles are mistagged and have no proper copyvio tagging, and now they are accusing me of hosting copyvio articles. I see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-21 Thread geni
On 21 July 2012 22:33, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: John, and others. I have finally figured out a big problem with my plan. The articles for deletion are not tagged peoperly at all. There are authors who know for a fact that articles are mistagged and have no proper

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-21 Thread John Vandenberg
Hi Mike, You are going to find it difficult to find people who want to give their time to your project, as the cost benefit ratio is very low. If people had more time, they would be spending it rescuing the articles before deletion (on a non-profit wesbsite), rather than preparing them for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-21 Thread Mike Dupont
The articles are hosted on archive.org, and then transfered to wikia, I could make some review tools, but where to host them? mike On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: While I think you have a good idea (similar to one that I myself did several years ago, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-07-21 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 July 2012 22:33, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: John, and others. I have finally figured out a big problem with my plan. The articles for deletion are not tagged peoperly at all. There are authors

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-19 Thread David Richfield
I'm actually really shocked that the speedy deletion wiki doesn't have a copy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Juclandia - there's an excellent version of the article on http://microwiki.org.uk/index.php?title=Juclandia , though, so all is not lost. [it seems to be a monstrously

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-19 Thread Mike Dupont
Well, lets see the speedy deletion wiki was just launched, 15 December 2010  it was deleted. I will have to make a plan for getting older articles, they would be possible to get, but it is outside of our time window right now. mike On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:48 AM, David Richfield

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-13 Thread Mike Dupont
ok kim, thanks again for your constructive feedback, and thanks to everyone who has given input. It is great to have a supportive group of people like you to talk to. now i have upgraded the code, including templates and full history. It gets all new articles not seen before every 10 minutes.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Strainu
2012/6/10 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: Hi, I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30 minutes with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, not others). Hey Mike, Great idea, do you plan to extend it to other wikis?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Tarc Meridian t...@hotmail.com wrote: This  has been tried before, i.e. wikialpha.org.  Pages are speedily deleted for a reason, many of them quite properly so.  Moving potentially libelous BLP attack pages and other sundry junk to a publicly viewable wiki is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Thomas Morton
This has been debated numerous times; to what extent does the attribution have to relate to the exact contribution of each author. A list of authors has been considered acceptable in the past (including on-wiki). Tom On 12 June 2012 23:48, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Jun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Kim Bruning
In theory, yes. However, if you're fetching page dumps conforming to the schema at http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.6/ http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.6.xsd to some extent you've already got all the information anyway. It *almost* takes more work to filter out just the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Kim Bruning
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 05:44:40AM +, Mike Dupont wrote: Hi, Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no one is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as being from wikipedia. ps. It occurs to me that if the full history is available on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Mike Dupont
yes, good point, and while checking this I found a problem. it turns out that up to now I dont have the full history, I have modified the extractor to pull the full version. For the other articles, I dont have the full history. mike On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kim Bruning

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-11 Thread emijrp
Mike is the terror of deletionists. Good work. 2012/6/10 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Hi, I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30 minutes with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, not others). it is running on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-11 Thread Thomas Morton
Indeed; and so it was... {{facepalm}} Tom On 11 June 2012 17:32, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: here is one that is worth keeping! http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Rootstrikers On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Mike is the terror of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-11 Thread Andrew Gray
On 11 June 2012 08:40, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: After rereading your question, it boils down to if the tags are wrong. If the tags are wrong we will have to deal with them on a case by case issue, and I see that we will have to do more finer tagging of articles to be

[Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-10 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30 minutes with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, not others). it is running on the en.wikipedia.org. the sources for the script are all on git hub and are a merger of pywikipediabot and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-10 Thread Mike Dupont
well originally i wanted just not notable, but i was interested in hoaxes personally. let me see, http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=hoaxfulltext=Search http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=hoaxfulltext=Searchthey are clearly marked and might contain something

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.comwrote: This is where I think things become slightly problematic. There are, in broad terms, two categories of hoaxes: those which are fundamentally harmless (these typically being of the did you know that 'gullible' isn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-10 Thread Nathan
What happens to your system if an article is deleted from Wikipedia, a new article is posted again under the same name, and then that one is also deleted? On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Kirill Lokshin