Re: [Wikimedia-l] volunteers who don't know about opportunities

2013-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Sumana Harihareswara, 24/02/2013 16:07:

[...] I don't know the answer.  Like Josh, I don't know how well our publicity
about these things is penetrating our volunteer communities, and I don't
know what level of penetration I would be satisfied with.  I suspect
that others have better answers regarding what we've tried, what works,
and what we're doing next, and I'd love to hear them.



This is a general problem and (in my experience) always a very 
distressing one, but there's no amount of communication that can fix it: 
you have to live with the defects of human nature, you can't assume 
information symmetry and rationality.
In the end, you can only assess if your program has increased equality 
or actually reduced it, and move your eggs to another basket in the 
latter case. (The tragedy is when you're not able to assess.)


Nemo

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[Wikimedia-l] volunteers who don't know about opportunities

2013-02-24 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:31:59 +0800
 From: Josh Lim jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com
 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are chapters part of the community and
   board   seats for affiliates?
 Message-ID: 56a3c552-d6ed-47ba-8ea2-e56f9a1b8...@yahoo.com
 
 On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:27 AM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The vast majority of volunteers like the idea that there is a Chapter
 they can turn to to ask for help, or to get their idea for a project
 reviewed, funded and looking official. If a volunteer came to a
 wikimeet with a brilliant idea for a project, but said they could not
 stand the stupid bureaucracy of chapters, I'd say excellent mate, you
 go for it and I'll see what I can do to help with funding if you need
 it.
 
 I'm inclined to believe that bureaucracy exists despite, not because of, 
 chapters.  As it is, volunteers, especially those from the Global South, can 
 be classified into two types:
 
 1. They're detached: they're part of the community, but they don't know 
 about the support options open to them
 2. They're so involved in the community, they could care less about the 
 bureaucracy (in my university, this is called going down the hill, as my 
 university is on a hill)
 
 Chapters aside, I'm in fact curious to know how many volunteers do know about 
 the Foundation's grants system, or the research program, or heck, Wikimedia 
 User Groups or Wikimania scholarships.  Granted, it's a good thing that 
 volunteers have options open for them whether or not they want to deal with 
 the bureaucracy, but it's all for nought if they're left unaware of those 
 options.
 
 Josh
 
 JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM

I just wanted to follow up on this and reinforce Josh Lim's point.

Yesterday, I spent several hours chatting with volunteers, seasoned and
new, at the Wikipedia Day that the New York City chapter put together:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wikipedia_Day (thank
you, volunteers of New York City!).  I was dismayed at how few people
knew about the Participation Support subsidies that they could apply for
to help them do outreach (more on that  related opportunities at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start ).

In my role helping MediaWiki sysadmins and developers, I often ask
whether they've heard of our conferences, our paid internships, our
online events, and so on.  More and more of the undergraduate students
have heard of Google Summer of Code
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013 , but graduate
students often don't know that they're eligible, and students in North
America and Europe often haven't heard of it.

I don't know the answer.  Like Josh, I don't know how well our publicity
about these things is penetrating our volunteer communities, and I don't
know what level of penetration I would be satisfied with.  I suspect
that others have better answers regarding what we've tried, what works,
and what we're doing next, and I'd love to hear them.

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation

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