Re: [Wikimedia-l] wikireaders project, how is this calculated correctly?

2014-05-29 Thread Victor Grigas 


> On May 29, 2014, at 5:41 AM, rupert THURNER  wrote:
> 
> victor,
> 
> thats great to read about the impact of the project. the idiegogo link
> says it raised 3'370 out of 232'000,  the wmf grant link states it
> raised 3'000. why there is a difference?

I think that indiegogo takes like 10% of whatever you raise if you don't meet 
your goal, I think it's like 3% if you do meet your goal

> i was also wondering that in the report your partner states: 20-30% of
> the wikireaders could not hold any charge so 600 usd where used to
> mail them back to the vendor. while the amazon site for selling the
> devices says: the batteries last for a couple of months then need to
> be replaced.

Yeah if you read a few of the amazon reviews some say that some devices just 
didn't work at all, and some drain the battery way too fast. We had a lot of 
reports of this, people were ashamed to say so because the wikireaders were 
gifts!. 

Aislinn felt that because of this issue the project was a failure and we 
shouldn't do the same with these devices again since we were shipping these 
devices to mostly poor people who can't afford to keep buying batteries. Also 
we found that AAA batts aren't the same quality everywhere, high might 
contribute to the high fail rate.

The value of the whole thing is the survey data in the google doc in the report

> 
> rupert
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>> My significant other applied for a grant and got 500 Wikireaders
>> distributed to 3 schools:
>> 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Aislinn_Dewey/Distribute_WikiReaders_to_Schools/Report
>> 
>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-distribute-wikireaders-and-provide-an-opportunity-for-kids-to-learn
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Fæ  wrote:
>>> 
 On 28 May 2014 15:04, Marc A. Pelletier  wrote:
 ...
 So that Wil's interest manifested around the time Lila was announced as
 the next ED seems to me to be perfectly natural, even if I have
 expressed serious concerns about *how* that interest was expressed.
 -- Marc
>>> 
>>> There is a big difference between your partner having an interest in
>>> your organization, and going on to publish public complaints about the
>>> staff that you have complete authority and responsibility for
>>> employing.
>>> 
>>> I may be wrong, perhaps someone has some examples of where this worked
>>> out well? The only examples from history and the political world I can
>>> recall, did not.
>>> 
>>> Fae
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[Wikimedia-l] wikireaders project, how is this calculated correctly?

2014-05-29 Thread rupert THURNER 
victor,

thats great to read about the impact of the project. the idiegogo link
says it raised 3'370 out of 232'000,  the wmf grant link states it
raised 3'000. why there is a difference?

i was also wondering that in the report your partner states: 20-30% of
the wikireaders could not hold any charge so 600 usd where used to
mail them back to the vendor. while the amazon site for selling the
devices says: the batteries last for a couple of months then need to
be replaced.

rupert



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Victor Grigas  wrote:
> My significant other applied for a grant and got 500 Wikireaders
> distributed to 3 schools:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Aislinn_Dewey/Distribute_WikiReaders_to_Schools/Report
>
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-distribute-wikireaders-and-provide-an-opportunity-for-kids-to-learn
>
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Fæ  wrote:
>
>> On 28 May 2014 15:04, Marc A. Pelletier  wrote:
>> ...
>> > So that Wil's interest manifested around the time Lila was announced as
>> > the next ED seems to me to be perfectly natural, even if I have
>> > expressed serious concerns about *how* that interest was expressed.
>> > -- Marc
>>
>> There is a big difference between your partner having an interest in
>> your organization, and going on to publish public complaints about the
>> staff that you have complete authority and responsibility for
>> employing.
>>
>> I may be wrong, perhaps someone has some examples of where this worked
>> out well? The only examples from history and the political world I can
>> recall, did not.
>>
>> Fae
>> --
>> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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