Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

On 6 Sep 2012, at 07:38, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" wrote: >> Once concluded, the RFC process revealed the community’s >> desire to see a new travel project created. The Wikimedia Foundation Board >> supports the community’s decision and is moving forward with the creation >> of this new project. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

The community has unofficially summarized the RfC here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide#Summary_of_arguments But yes the final summary and decision was to be left to the WMF. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.open

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

Hi all, on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following statement about the travel guide RfC http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide : Through the RfC, it is clear our community has reached consensus in favor of the creation of a travel guide. The B

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

On 6 September 2012 08:18, James Heilman wrote: > The community has unofficially summarized the RfC here > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide#Summary_of_arguments > But yes the final summary and decision was to be left to the WMF. > > Just to follow up on this, the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

On 6 September 2012 01:46, Kelly Kay wrote: > Today the Wikimedia Foundation filed a > suit > in > San Francisco against Internet Brands seeking a judicial declaration that > Internet Brands has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

Just to note: Everyone (including in the recent board statement) seems to be avoiding mention that this new travel site has come about due to Wiki Travel admins having an interest in moving away from IB, or that it will be seeded with Wiki Travel content. It seems intellectually dishonest to leav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

On 6 September 2012 14:53, Thomas Morton wrote: > Everyone (including in the recent board statement) seems to be avoiding > mention that this new travel site has come about due to Wiki Travel admins > having an interest in moving away from IB, or that it will be seeded with > Wiki Travel content.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

Nonsense; the blog post is the PR release. So, yes, unfortunately I assert bad faith - hiding it in the brief is basically standard misdirection, in my experience. And for a movement dedicated (supposedly) to transparency it is very sad to see. Tom On 6 September 2012 15:03, David Gerard wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

Makes interesting reading. Is there anywhere that we can read the IB vs "the volunteers" documents? Or are they not publicly viewable? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Char

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

In contrast to Tom's opinion, I believe that WMF has done the right thing - write the blog post in a way so as to create the biggest PR impact within the limits of factual accuracy; and link to the PDF and discussions for the sake of transparency. On 6 September 2012 15:12, Thomas Morton wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

\o/ Nice! and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... On 6 September 2012 10:21, Alice Wiegand wrote: > Hi all, > > on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following > statement about the travel guide RfC > http://meta.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

The Wikitravel site seems to be declining in a hurry, even from what was evidently a sad state just several months ago. The main remaining administrator, an employee who goes by IBobi (IB as in Internet Brands), has limited his actions almost exclusively to arguing with other community members and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

On Sep 6, 2012 7:27 PM, "Nathan" wrote: > Other than in the process of enforcing telecommunications law, is > there any way to challenge the presumed immunity of a particular > entity under Section 230? It seems to me, as a layperson, that > Internet Brand's role in Wikitravel has penetrated whate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Sep 6, 2012 7:27 PM, "Nathan" wrote: >> Other than in the process of enforcing telecommunications law, is >> there any way to challenge the presumed immunity of a particular >> entity under Section 230? It seems to me, as a layperson, that

[Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

Forwarding questions from Research-l with permission, with the hope that these will spark discussion here on Wikimedia-l. RJensen: "Comments: I have not seen any editor make actual use of the Article Feedback tool -- are there examples? Yes Wikipedians are very proud of their vast half-billion-p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

(cross-posting my reply from wiki-research-l) The complete reports on WMF research on AFT5 can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Article_feedback The tool is currently deployed on a random 10% sample of English Wikipedia articles so it's not surprising most readers/editors d