On 14 October 2012 22:12, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
Will access to Wikipedia for people in Saudi Arabia be uncensored?
Very unlikely.
Has there been any agreement with Saudi Telecom on censorship?
The Saudi's don't like to discuss their censorship policies with
outsiders. I
WereSpielChequers, 15/10/2012 09:56:
60 edits a minute sounds high, and probably faster than most of these
sessions run at, but not if it is as I suspect, calculated every few
seconds.
It's not, as far as I can see. This is how it works:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRateLimits
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit_throttling is well worth
reading, especially the warning that Many users sharing the same IP
address could kick in throttling. Which seems a pretty clear indication to
me that this is working at the IP level and looking at all edits by newbies
and
The press release that started this thread said,
In collaboration with “Intigral”, a company specialized in providing
digital media solutions to telecom operators, STC subscribers can now
access the free service in both Arabic and English by pointing their
mobile browser to m.wikipedia.org.
On 15/10/12 16:15, WereSpielChequers wrote:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit_throttling is well worth
reading, especially the warning that Many users sharing the same IP
address could kick in throttling. Which seems a pretty clear indication to
me that this is working at the IP level
On Oct 15, 2012 6:06 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
This announcement is worrying, to say the least.
In other words, the Wikimedia Foundation is doing a partnership with
one of the most retrograde government, which is also a regular censor
on Internet content.
How could you
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Apologies if this is a stupid question, but I don't understand the
need for a partnership between the Wikipedia Foundation and the Saudi
Telecom Company (STC).
If STC wants not to charge its customers for accessing Wikipedia, in
what way does it need the help of the Foundation to achieve that?
Am 15.10.2012 21:19, schrieb Theo10011:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
This announcement is worrying, to say the least.
In other words, the Wikimedia Foundation is doing a partnership with
one of the most retrograde government, which is also a
Hi Andreas,
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
... some feature development. Please just tell us:
Is there anything about political or any other kind of censorship in the
WMF/STC agreement and/or the cooperation? Was the topic ever raised in the
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Yann
It's not a partnership with the government, it's with a telecom company
Theo, Saudi Telecom was wholly owned by the Saudi government when it was
founded in 1998. It held monopolies then.
After a partial
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Andreas,
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
... some feature development. Please just tell us:
Is there anything about political or any other kind of censorship in the
Thank you for enabling it again. I had read about the blind tests in
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Article_feedback/Quality_assessment
before but I see some major changes in the graphs, which are a bit hard to
understand.
1) In Daily moderation actions (percentage) there's a
2012/10/16 Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
This announcement is worrying, to say the least.
In other words, the Wikimedia Foundation is doing a partnership with
one of the most retrograde government, which is also a
Well, this telecom company is the arm of the government to impose
censorship in KSA.
This is a poor excuse. In creating such a partnership, WMF is
implicitely supporting the censorship by providing a moral caution,
even if it is not directly involved in censorship.
I guess I can see your
2012/10/16 Ciphers Wikip ciphersw...@gmail.com:
Well, this telecom company is the arm of the government to impose
censorship in KSA.
This is a poor excuse. In creating such a partnership, WMF is
implicitely supporting the censorship by providing a moral caution,
even if it is not directly
That's a difficult question, and a worthwhile debate.
Indeed it is.
I would first ask people of South Arabia fighting against censorship
what would help them most. That may provide a clue in which direction
we should work.
I have never been to Saudi Arabia, and I don`t think I am the best
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