Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solving the China censorship problem

2013-06-09 Thread Krenair
It still references 'commit access' though... Alex Monk On 09/06/13 04:45, Risker wrote: The requirements for voting are almost identical in 2013 compared to 2011. For editor voters, WMF staff and contractors, and Board/advisory board members, they are exactly the same. A modification was

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK elects four trustees to its Board

2013-06-09 Thread Chris Keating
Dear all, Thought you might like to hear news from Wikimedia UK's AGM. We held elections for four Trustees - we elect 3 one year and 4 the next, for two-year terms. Saad Choudhri and Greyham Dawes were elected for the first time, but are not new to the Board, as they were both co-opted to fill

[Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Liam Wyatt
This is a simple question with a potentially very complicated answer. What, if any, are the implications of the PRISM scandal for Wikimedia? Does the fact that our servers are based in the US now compromise our mission either in a technical, privacy or an ethical sense? - Liam / Wittylama

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Fred Bauder
All edits and other actions are archived, but I would think there would be zero interest or utility to NSA. I would simply ignore the matter. Fred This is a simple question with a potentially very complicated answer. What, if any, are the implications of the PRISM scandal for Wikimedia?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Christophe Henner
My understanding is that PRISM focused on private electronic communication. I can't see a situation where we would be concerned by that. But some official statement could help put at ease people worries :) -- Christophe On 10 June 2013 03:34, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: All edits

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/6/9 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net All edits and other actions are archived, but I would think there would be zero interest or utility to NSA. I would simply ignore the matter. How about private messages from Special:EmailUser? Just asking. I haven't studied the subject of PRISM much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Nathan
I think an official statement would be unnecessary and ill advised. It doesn't affect Wikimedia projects, there is no reason to think it does, and involving itself would be a mistake the WMF can and should avoid. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Anthony
There is plenty of reason to think the government would be interested in Wikipedia access logs. On the other hand, there's very little reason to believe an organization when they say they haven't been turning over information under a top secret order which they're not allowed to tell anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Benoit Landry
What information could the WMF disclose that isn't already available to some volunteers anyhow? The IP addresses of logged-in editors are visible to volunteer CUs; deleted revisions and log entries are visible to all volunteers admins. Wikipedia's inherently a pretty transparent system...

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Benoit Landry benoit_lan...@hotmail.comwrote: What information could the WMF disclose that isn't already available to some volunteers anyhow? I don't know what information some volunteers have access to, who qualifies as some volunteers (does the board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Craig Franklin
I'd suggest that while Wikimedia projects are somewhat less susceptible to PRISM-style snooping, simply because we're not a communications medium like Google or Facebook are. However, there is plenty of non-public information that could be of interest: - The IP addresses and identities of logged

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote: I wouldn't say that there's nothing to worry about, but at the same time I doubt we're near the top of the spooks' priority list. Maybe not priority-wise, but remember that the cooperation between Mediawiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread K. Peachey
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Maybe not priority-wise, but remember that the cooperation between Mediawiki developers and the CIA goes back several years at the least. Please feel free to elaborate, Just because they use MediaWiki doesn't mean the