Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-06-10 12:21, Fred Bauder a écrit : Correct. If Osama Bin Laden had been editing Wikipedia, before his death of course, through some account in Pakistan, it would have been rather reasonable to respond favorable to a request for information. Be careful, the underlying assumption of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-06-10 14:29, Craig Franklin a écrit : If the NSA, CIA, or some other spook agency is getting information off of Wikimedia servers, they don't have a CU account or anything like that. They'd have a program running at the operating system level that extracts the data in a standardised

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-06-10 16:01, John Vandenberg a écrit : It would be good *if* the WMF can provide assurances to editors that they havent received any national security letters or other 'trawling' requests from any U.S. agency. I doubt they can. Even if they say so, how do you check? May be you can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: Le 2013-06-10 16:01, John Vandenberg a écrit : It would be good *if* the WMF can provide assurances to editors that they havent received any national security letters or other 'trawling' requests from any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Fred Bauder
Le 2013-06-10 14:29, Craig Franklin a écrit : If the NSA, CIA, or some other spook agency is getting information off of Wikimedia servers, they don't have a CU account or anything like that. They'd have a program running at the operating system level that extracts the data in a

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediach-l] Wikimedia CH is hiring two new staff

2013-06-11 Thread Manuel Schneider
Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:05:45 +0200 Von:Chantal Ebongué chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch Dear all, We are looking for two new staff members : 1. Chief Administrative Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013 2. Chief Scientific Officer, 80-100 %,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: There will always be humans maintaining the system who must, in order to do their work, have potential access to everything. No, there isn't. This statement is about as recklessly false as your previous one that WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 06/11/2013 08:19 AM, Anthony wrote: Putting everything in a single database which can be accessed by a single developer is a choice. It is, also, the only *reasonable* choice given the resources at our disposal. I've contracted with CSIS in the past and had the immense pleasure of working

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Liam Wyatt
Perhaps we as individuals, or the WMF as an organisation, might also like to sign up to Mozilla's campaign stopwatching.us? Blogpost - https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/06/11/stopwatching-us-mozilla-launches-massive-campaign-on-digital-surveillance/ Website - https://optin.stopwatching.us/ I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Luis Villa
[+ Advocacy Advisors] On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we as individuals, or the WMF as an organisation, might also like to sign up to Mozilla's campaign stopwatching.us? Blogpost -

[Wikimedia-l] Some Unanswered Questions

2013-06-11 Thread Fred Bauder
We can guess, of course, and some of us are very good guessers, but here: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=5-basic-unknowns-nsa-black-hole-prism Fred ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
We'd should ask the NSA if they'd like a Wikipedian-in-Residence. Think of the citations we could add to BLPs! On Jun 10, 2013 2:17 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: This is a simple question with a potentially very complicated answer. What, if any, are the implications of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Michael Snow
On 6/11/2013 1:03 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: We'd should ask the NSA if they'd like a Wikipedian-in-Residence. Why not just go all the way and ask them to release everything they've collected under a free license? (Well, so the copyright to most of it probably doesn't belong to them. Does that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Peter Southwood
Would they be considered a reliable source? Peter - Original Message - From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM We'd should ask the NSA if they'd like

[Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee first progress reports

2013-06-11 Thread Katy Love
Greetings, everyone! Are you curious about what the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Round 1 grantees have been working on these last few months? If you haven't already seen the first progress reports submitted by the FDC Round 1 grantees, come on over and check them out! To find these first

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.orgwrote: On 06/11/2013 08:19 AM, Anthony wrote: Putting everything in a single database which can be accessed by a single developer is a choice. It is, also, the only *reasonable* choice given the resources at our disposal.