Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
When one reads the links offered by Pavlo, the picture is clearer. The board is trying to suppress on-list criticism with this step, claiming people (no doubt including Pavlo) are trolls and spammers. I think we all know things are often not black and white, and that accusations of trolling are

[Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-19 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
http://feedly.com/k/14WeLcY I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please do set me straight. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-19 Thread Fred Bauder
http://feedly.com/k/14WeLcY I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please do set me straight. You're not wrong, but getting the attention of a federal prosecutor would be easier for jaywalking in a National Park. It applies only to extreme situations. Fred

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-19 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
I'm really grateful for your note, Asaf You comprehend my messages 100% right. Perhaps even more than that, as I'm just unable to verify whether I'm a troll (or not, hopefully). But as to the best of my belief I'm ready to face the fact, that I'm the troll (how can I know that for sure?) so I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the Board post-Wikimania

2013-08-19 Thread Quim Gil
On 08/14/2013 01:52 PM, Steven Walling wrote: Would the Board consider recruiting expert seats with more experience in engineering and product development? With or without expert seats, I believe the whole tech planning process would improve if our tech volunteers (tech ambassadors?) would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-19 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:57 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Predicted demographics: 95% women from the global south :) (-: I am personally hesitant about automatic translations, and whether we can achieve the coverage (in language pairs) and the quality (of Wikipedia). But that

[Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-19 Thread attolippip
Dear all, as a member of the board in question, i would like to explain more But let's not pretend this is a question of a sudden need to set up a new mailing list. That's not what this is about (q) A. yep. totally agree. this all is about usearching for transparent and convenient forms of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-19 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
I'm glad that antanana (she don't like capital letters as you can see :) ) joined our discussion. Now is her very first term in the Board (we reelect the board each year) and she brought a lot of 'fresh air' to our Board and proceeds to do so every day and even night (for example she sent her

[Wikimedia-l] law enforcement buying vulnerabilities on black market leaving them unreported for surveillance

2013-08-19 Thread James Salsman
While the trickling release of Edward Snowden's revelations from bad to worse in weekly incremental steps has been enormously effective in swaying public opinion, it has made formulating a meaningful response very difficult. A few weeks ago we learned that the FBI has been purchasing personal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] law enforcement buying vulnerabilities on black market leaving them unreported for surveillance

2013-08-19 Thread JP Béland
I'm not sure what is your point here. How exactly readers of Wikimedia projects are at risk here because of that story? Are you trying to say it is the Foundation responsibility to protect the readers from the vulnerabilities of their operating systems? JP Béland 2013/8/19 James Salsman