Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Andre Engels
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Which reminds me – I often think it odd that Wikimedia will fund a Wikipedian-in-Residence for some regional tourist attraction (think the Welsh Coastal Path project, or the York Museum), Wikipedians-in-Residence are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Which reminds me – I often think it odd that Wikimedia will fund a Wikipedian-in-Residence for some regional tourist attraction (think the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Craig Franklin
On 12 January 2014 02:58, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Craig Franklin wrote: I think it's actually foolish to try and split hairs over what is acceptable paid editing and what is unacceptable paid editing. The facts of the matter are that paid editing is taking place right now, and it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Craig Franklin
Detail ;-). Probably the language of the project that the paid edits are occurring on, I'd imagine. Cheers, Craig On 12 January 2014 21:58, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, In what language does this disclosure have to be ?? Thanks, Gerard On 12 January 2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote: I was thinking more along the lines of a centralised disclosure list where people can say My name is X, my user account is Y, and I am doing paid editing on article Z. Such a thing would of course invite a lot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Andrew Gray
It varies. Some are essentially unfunded or self-funded; some are institutionally funded; some are funded by chapter-sourced grants; some are funded by third parties (I was!); and a mix of #2 and #3 is not uncommon. Andrew. On 12 January 2014 10:06, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-12 Thread Tim Starling
On 11/01/14 06:21, Ryan Kaldari wrote: These are two reason we don't have Thanks for anonymous editors: 1. Anonymous editors don't get notifications 2. Multiple editors often share the same IP address Problem #2 isn't as prominent as it use to be, but there are still many large companies and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-12 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 01/12/2014 10:57 PM, Tim Starling wrote: We could even allocate a row in the user table for them, which would be beneficial for various features that currently exclude anons due to the need to link to a user ID. What you're discussing is an unnamed user account that's implicitly created and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-12 Thread Tim Starling
On 13/01/14 15:35, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: What you're discussing is an unnamed user account that's implicitly created and lasts as long as the cookie does. Those are going to pile up *really* fast, especially from browsers that do not keep cookies for any reason. Not as fast as revisions,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-12 Thread Steven Walling
I really really wish we could thanks IPs too. It sucks to treat them like second class citizens. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Something like the new message orange bar :) I guess that designers and Growth people may know an answer, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-12 Thread MZMcBride
Steven Walling wrote: With my product manager for Growth hat on... Like Kaldari said we can't give people who aren't logged in Echo notifications at the moment. The only alternative is to post to the IP talk page. This would require us to basically build a user account, i.e. a bot, in to Thanks to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-12 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Jan 13, 2014 7:25 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Steven Walling wrote: With my product manager for Growth hat on... Like Kaldari said we can't give people who aren't logged in Echo notifications at the moment. The only alternative is to post to the IP talk page. This would require