Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defining impact for Wikimedia programs, grants and evaluation

2014-05-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nathan, 20/05/2014 02:59: Judging by meta I think Edward and the PE team have made a great start. But it's 2014 and the WMF is still at a starting point. Proposing that funding requests include SMART goals is not good enough, and I'd love to see Lila and the board empower Edward to do a lot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-20 Thread Chad Horohoe
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.comwrote: The major problem is that labor is wasted because there is no easy way to search intersections of categories. Instead of having a category for 18th century French painters, it would be ideal to just have tags for people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-20 Thread Jan Ainali
2014-05-20 8:41 GMT+02:00 Chad Horohoe choro...@wikimedia.org: The search engine (new, as well as old) supports category intersection. So actually, searching intersections of categories is very easy. Our definitiions of very easy are not intersecting :) It is possible yes, but to qualify for

[Wikimedia-l] Wikidata vs Wikipedia

2014-05-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Amir Ladsgroup has developed reports that show differences between the date of birth and the date of death as known in the English Wikipedia and Wikidata. Such differences may be wrong in either Wikidata or Wikipedia. They are the ones that need attention, they are the ones where sources

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 May 2014 02:16, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: I'll be leaving Commons categorisation until it's tags rather than ridiculously specific subcategories. Commons has tags right now: they're called categories. Or is there a distinction you're making? :-) We've

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 May 2014 02:44, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Regarding hierarchy, there's absolutely no technical reason, as far as I'm aware, that categories must be hierarchal. It's certainly an intended feature that categories have subcategories and the capability to be hierarchal (i.e., you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, OmegaWiki did a proof of concept for tagging images with multilingual tags years ago.. Categories are broken by design. It is not only that they are unilingual, it is also that they are always in the plural. Why look for horses when you look for a picture of a horse? Thanks, GerardM

[Wikimedia-l] Task-oriented mailing lists

2014-05-20 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, this year in a Gsoc project, following a proposal by the student, we are using a dedicated mailing list for his project. I think it is a great solution because: - interested people can follow the project without bothering usual mailing lists - the evolution of the project is recorded and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata vs Wikipedia

2014-05-20 Thread Thyge
Something seems to have gone wrong. According to the list, en:wikipedia specifies the birth date of Jimmy Waleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Walesas being 1966-08-08, where in fact Wikipedia has the (sourced) date August 7, 1966 which is identical to the date in Wikidata. Regards, Thyge

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata vs Wikipedia

2014-05-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The template in the article has his birthday at the wrong date.. {{Persondata |NAME=Wales, Jimmy |ALTERNATIVE NAMES=Wales, Jimbo |SHORT DESCRIPTION=American [[Internet entrepreneur]], co-founder of Wikipedia |DATE OF BIRTH=August 8, 1966 |PLACE OF BIRTH=[[Huntsville, Alabama|Huntsville]],

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-20 Thread Nikolas Everett
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Jan Ainali jan.ain...@wikimedia.se wrote: 2014-05-20 8:41 GMT+02:00 Chad Horohoe choro...@wikimedia.org: The search engine (new, as well as old) supports category intersection. So actually, searching intersections of categories is very easy. Our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announceme​nt by the Supervisor​y Board of Wikimedia Deutschlan​d

2014-05-20 Thread Rodrigo Padula
Hello Nikolas, Thanks for sharing this! I had the opportunity to visit the deutsch chapter during Wikimedia Conference in Berlin and I was really impressed with everything that is done there and the seriousness of the work and administration. Without a doubt, the deutsch chapter is a reference

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Monthly report Wikimedia Nederland: April

2014-05-20 Thread Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland
Wikimedia Nederland published it April report : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201404 It is included in this message as plain text. COMMUNITY: supporting and mobilising volunteers and editors * Small grants programme WMNL gave a grant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Task-oriented mailing lists

2014-05-20 Thread Quim Gil
We are going to discuss Google Summer of Code and FOSS Outreach Program for Women in 90 minutes at #wikimedia-office -- join us! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering_Community_Team/Meetings/2014-05-20 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: this year in a Gsoc

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia in Who has your back EFF transparency report.

2014-05-20 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi, EFF has published this transparency report called Who has your back which now includes Wikimedia (I think they are referring to the Wikimedia Foundation, though). Well, the result is slightly disappointing: https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014#wikimedia About

[Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Jeevan Jose
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Odderoldid=124445321#Commons_talk:Nudity Is this the way Commons:Photographs of identifiable people works? Regards, Jee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia in Who has your back EFF transparency report.

2014-05-20 Thread Pete Forsyth
Thanks for posting this, Cristian! I have been a big fan of this campaign for several years, and have urged EFF to include Wikimedia. So pleased to see this becoming a reality! A couple observations: - Most of the companies with 6 stars have been rated for one or more years prior. -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Pipo Le Clown
You didn't get the answer you wanted, so you're forum shopping to get the right one ? How nice of you. Le 20 mai 2014 17:37, Jeevan Jose jkadav...@gmail.com a écrit : https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Odderoldid=124445321#Commons_talk:Nudity Is this the way

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia engineering report, April 2014

2014-05-20 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in April 2014 is now available. Wiki version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2014/April Blog version: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/05/14/engineering-report-april-2014/ We're also proposing a shorter,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia in Who has your back EFF transparency report.

2014-05-20 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: - The report specifically addresses the two stars Wikimedia missed, stating that (1) it plans to publish a transparency report in July and (2) should not be judged poorly for not having had the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia in Who has your back EFF transparency report.

2014-05-20 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-05-20 18:14 GMT+02:00 Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: (2) should not be judged poorly for not having had the right opportunity to defend users in court the way the report defines it. On the second point:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defining impact for Wikimedia programs, grants and evaluation

2014-05-20 Thread Jaime Anstee
Thank you, Nathan, for your comments and suggestions. Each of the points you have raised are very much on our radar, but we are still in a place in which we must make strategic choices in moving toward the end goal of knowing which programs and activities have high potential for impact, which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Thyge
What a kind communication! It gives me the impression that you are afraid to discuss matters outside of Commons. The special role of Commons as a joint resource should occationally allow concerns to be raised outside the community of commonites. If concerns are not of a general nature, please at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia in Who has your back EFF transparency report.

2014-05-20 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: 2014-05-20 18:14 GMT+02:00 Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: (2) should not be judged poorly for not having had the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Pipo Le Clown
I can see a least 5 pages on Commons where this kind of matter can and should be raised. But Jee chose to send a mail on this mailing list. Jee is a seasoned contributor to Commons, and he has found those pages in the past. He knows our policies and this email was (in my opinion) an attempt to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Pierre-Selim
Hi all, As an oversight, I'd like to give an advice first. When encountering a privacy matter that you believe falls under the oversight policy https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Oversight_policy#Use you should probably contact directly oversight-comm...@lists.wikimedia.org rather than linking the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Risker
I do not understand why anyone would assume that the woman has agreed to this, without her actually, personally, saying that she has agreed to this. Risker On 20 May 2014 15:22, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info wrote: Hi all, As an oversight, I'd like to give an advice first. When

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Pipo Le Clown
@Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only assume that the person on the pictures is fully aware of the implication of said photos on the internet and willing to see them diffused. @Pierre-Selim: After

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Pierre-Selim
2014-05-20 21:35 GMT+02:00 Pipo Le Clown plecl...@gmail.com: @Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only assume that the person on the pictures is fully aware of the implication of said photos on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Risker
On 20 May 2014 15:43, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info wrote: 2014-05-20 21:35 GMT+02:00 Pipo Le Clown plecl...@gmail.com: @Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only assume that the person

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Pierre-Selim
2014-05-20 22:03 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com: On 20 May 2014 15:43, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info wrote: 2014-05-20 21:35 GMT+02:00 Pipo Le Clown plecl...@gmail.com: @Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's decision. But I've visited the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Risker
Who said that there were images uploaded to Commons? There is a link to images offered as a free sample. What I am disputing is one person's ability to claim authority to release photos of another person when the photos are taken in a non-public place. Given how common it is for women to find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Keating
@Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only assume that the person on the pictures is fully aware of the implication of said photos on the internet and willing to see them diffused. I don't think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Keating
Though in this case it does seem that Commons has given sound advice that any photos submitted should be accompanied by a model release. If only more photos on Commons had model releases! On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: @Risker: I was thinking

[Wikimedia-l] Silly question? - What list is meant for what?

2014-05-20 Thread Rui Correia
Hi I realised a while back that I have in the past written to the Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List and to the Wikimedia Mailing List without een realising that I was writing to more than one list. I do now vaguely recall once getting a response saying that what I wanted discusses would best be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Task-oriented mailing lists

2014-05-20 Thread Rui Correia
Hi Quim I just posted an email titled Silly question? Which list is meant for what?. I wonder if you would have the time to weigh in on that on the last point (2.a)) of the email. Best regards, Rui 2014-05-20 16:39 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org: We are going to discuss Google Summer