Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Patricio Lorente
Thank you, chapters and thorgs! I take your decision as a vote of confidence that encourages me to work harder and better. Congratulations, Frieda! I'm really happy to share with you this responsability and I'm looking forward to work with you in the Board. I also need to thank Alice for her

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mark
On 6/2/14, 10:55 PM, ??? wrote: There is no public interest in how many time celeb X got a detention at school for not doing their homework at junior high. Isn't that the kind of information you would in fact expect to find in a biography of any kind of public figure? If I were reading a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
On 3 June 2014 03:02, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Because VE has repeatedly been mentioned in this list as something that is improving and may help us with acquisition of editors and their knowledge, I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on English Wikipedia. I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Would WMF, being in the US, need to worry about this to any greater degree than it worries about, say, Chinese publishing restrictions, or UK superinjunctions? First, WMF operates globally, and while I took pains as general

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe Wikipedia could be a data controller as it has no legal personality, and legal personality is quite difficult to acquire when you set out to avoid acquiring it. On this point I must disagree.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Would WMF, being in the US, need to worry about this to any greater degree than it worries about, say, Chinese publishing restrictions, or UK

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Godwin
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Does the ECJ need to establish jurisdiction over Wikimedia or specific users (presumably only those users directly involved in creating or curating the content in dispute)? We've seen in some situations in the past (e.g. with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
On 3 June 2014 09:05, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2014 03:02, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Because VE has repeatedly been mentioned in this list as something that is improving and may help us with acquisition of editors and their knowledge, I have started to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-03 Thread Alice Wiegand
Thanks to the organizers and facilitators for setting up the process. And congratulations to Frieda and Patricio. I wish both of you every success, strength and support for your work on the Board! Alice. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Frieda Brioschi ubifri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Edward Saperia
Sounds like your suggestion would be a perfect contribution to some kind of community discussion to try and decide a framework to decide if or when we might want to re-deploy visual editor, much like Pine was suggesting in the first place :-) *Edward Saperia* Chief Coordinator Wikimania London

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
On 3 June 2014 12:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2014 16:37, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, further to what I've said aboveI think that before having an RFC, we should seek community assistance to carry out a small-scale study so that there is some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Risker
Thanks Ed. The point I am trying to make is that the community can't make a good decision on this unless they understand the VisualEditor product as it exists today. I think pretty much everyone agrees it wasn't ready for default editing on 1 July 2013, but absent recent data most people would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 June 2014 08:02, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on English Wikipedia URL? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Hey Risker, Pine, David, all, On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2014 12:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2014 16:37, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, further to what I've said aboveI think that before having an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-03 Thread geni
On 2 June 2014 14:38, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: £2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me £120 to come and tell me my dishwasher is broken These things are hard to calculate. You could however get a Canon EF 180mm f/3.5L Macro and a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread ???
On 03/06/2014 12:53, Mark wrote: On 6/2/14, 10:55 PM, ??? wrote: There is no public interest in how many time celeb X got a detention at school for not doing their homework at junior high. Isn't that the kind of information you would in fact expect to find in a biography of any kind of public

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:23 PM, ??? wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: On 03/06/2014 12:53, Mark wrote: On 6/2/14, 10:55 PM, ??? wrote: There is no public interest in how many time celeb X got a detention at school for not doing their homework at junior high. Isn't that the kind of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-03 Thread Tilman Bayer
Minutes and slides from last week's quarterly review of the Foundation's Mobile Contributions team are now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Mobile_contributions/May_2014 . On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread ???
On 03/06/2014 22:35, Nathan wrote: Interesting. Can you link me to a biography where a school detention is the main feature of the article? How about this 8 yo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Emmanuel_of_Belgium#Biography What about these other kids?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 PM, ??? wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: On 03/06/2014 22:35, Nathan wrote: Interesting. Can you link me to a biography where a school detention is the main feature of the article? How about this 8 yo?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-03 Thread ???
On 04/06/2014 00:06, Nathan wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 PM, ??? wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: On 03/06/2014 22:35, Nathan wrote: Interesting. Can you link me to a biography where a school detention is the main feature of the article? How about this 8 yo?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee seeking nominations for new members

2014-06-03 Thread Katy Love
Greetings, all: Here's a reminder that the FDC staff will be doing an IRC office hours in 12 minutes time (and counting!) about the FDC nominations on the #wikimedia-office channel. [1] We'll hold another office hours later today (though it might be tomorrow, depending on your timezone) at 16:00

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Signpost is (sort of) published

2014-06-03 Thread Isarra Yos
On 02/06/14 20:14, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 2 June 2014 19:39, Ed Erhart the.e...@gmail.com wrote: There is one person in charge of making the final calls of every issue—me. This is troubling, Wikipedia is supposed to be an open, community-driven initiative. We've seen problems in the past