Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Peter Southwood
Link does not work. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Askin Sent: 16 July 2014 04:00 AM To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey We are looking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Thyge
the http:// part has been left out. Correct link is http://fluidsurveys.com/s/WikipediaSurvey/ Regards Sir48/Thyge 2014-07-16 8:29 GMT+02:00 Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net: Link does not work. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread
Dear UWO Wikipedia Research Team, Your survey does not appear to have been approved by the Wikimedia Research Committee (RCom). You can find contact details at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_Committee. Due to concerns with regard to privacy, such as recording their IP address against

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks. All questions were generic and about Wikipedia, so I answered with the Italian Wikipedia in mind. Also note that it.wiki is perhaps the only wiki which switched deletions from voting to non-voting: the experiment was already done, you only need to measure and interpret it. :-) See

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
In Polish Wikipedia there is no voting for deletion for around 3-4 years. There is discussion and then final decission is made by one of admins who regularly maintains the deletion process. 2014-07-16 10:20 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Thanks. All questions were generic and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
If the people who have created this survey can fix the problems raised by Fae, I'd be happy to share this with several language Wikipedians in India. I'm sure that at this point nobody would want to be part of it. On Jul 16, 2014 1:54 PM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: In Polish

[Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot i Wall street jpournal and BBC world

2014-07-16 Thread Anders Wennersten
Wall Street Journal (online) [1] had two days ago a long article on Lsjbot, yesterday being their fourth most read article. it was followed up yesterday by articles in media in Brazil, Poland, (arabian paper), France, Australia Huffington Post etc It will now in a few hours time be an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Todd Allen
English hasn't used voting for a long time either. AfD discussions are closed based on strength of argument and compliance with policy. On Jul 16, 2014 2:24 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: In Polish Wikipedia there is no voting for deletion for around 3-4 years. There is discussion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot i Wall street jpournal and BBC world

2014-07-16 Thread Russavia
Anders, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: Whilst you are doing some good things with these bot-created articles, I do have some concerns. Mainly, the fact that there is no human intervention in the creation process. I have found myself having to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread David Gerard
I would suggest that it doesn't become not a vote merely by not calling it a vote. I note all the closes that count !votes and how the not-voting pattern on a given AFD is frequently brought up at DRV. On 16 July 2014 12:25, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: English hasn't used voting for a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello, I feel that this is an unethical research project and I have told the researcher so. We exchanged several emails and were unable to understand each other. I asked them to please have their university ethics board contact me. I asked the researcher about RCOM and other things. This person

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 16/07/2014 13:34: I would suggest that it doesn't become not a vote merely by not calling it a vote. I note all the closes that count !votes and how the not-voting pattern on a given AFD is frequently brought up at DRV. Sure, but calling it a vote makes it a vote. If it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread
On 16 July 2014 12:39, Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com wrote: ... I asked this researcher to discontinue the survey pending a check on the impact of it on the Wikipedia community. I said this because I feel they are out of compliance with even the soft suggestions in research that are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Good points, Lane. Such things were possibly discussed before, but it's the first time that I see it it spelled out like this. This approach should be advertised a bit somehow, so that the researchers know how to do it ethically and for everybody's benefit, and so that the experienced Wikipedians

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/16/2014 07:44 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: AFAIK deletion has never been a vote by policy on en.wiki. No, but it almost always devolves to a vote de facto. Interestingly enough, that particular question (did you close discussions by counting show of hand vs evaluating the rationales)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot i Wall street jpournal and BBC world

2014-07-16 Thread Ilario Valdelli
I agree. It may be a good solution to patch the losing of editors... if there is no plan for community support. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Anders, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: Whilst

[Wikimedia-l] On historical event / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-16 Thread Milos Rancic
I am finally able to share with you the biggest benefit of WMRS Microgrants projects for this year. It's about cooperation with one very old institution, and it was necessary to wait for their formal letter. But first about the side effects of the Microgrants project... When you are going

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On historical event / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-16 Thread Jon Davies
Great work! On 16 July 2014 16:31, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I am finally able to share with you the biggest benefit of WMRS Microgrants projects for this year. It's about cooperation with one very old institution, and it was necessary to wait for their formal letter. But

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Nicole Askin
Perhaps Lane's involvement with RCOM would prevent submissions from going unanswered for months - this is a huge roadblock to researchers who are trying to do things ethically. On the other hand, if Lane were to accuse other researchers of harming the community for personal gain, as he has done

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 July 2014 12:34, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I would suggest that it doesn't become not a vote merely by not calling it a vote. I note all the closes that count !votes and how the not-voting pattern on a given AFD is frequently brought up at DRV. Vote-counting is increasingly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On historical event / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, WOW Gerard On 16 July 2014 17:31, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I am finally able to share with you the biggest benefit of WMRS Microgrants projects for this year. It's about cooperation with one very old institution, and it was necessary to wait for their formal letter. But

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com wrote: Hello, I feel that this is an unethical research project and I have told the researcher so. We exchanged several emails and were unable to understand each other. I asked them to please have their university ethics

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On historical event / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-16 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Looks really nice. Could you send an update, when the files are uploaded? And a blog post would be wonderful :) Best! C. Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+351-91-9860232 (Vodafone PT) German number currently offline On 16 July 2014 18:02, Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Nathan
To avoid confusion with researchers in the future, I've made some minor changes to the research related pages on Meta (see below). This should help ensure that outdated documentation does not cause unnecessarily delay and/or expense for those interested in doing Wikimedia-related research. 1:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015: CoSyne

2014-07-16 Thread Emeric Vallespi
Hi, WMFr is still thinking about organizing Wikimedia Hackathon in 2015. We are currently identifying the technical, financial and especially human resources needed to make it a success. Frans, could you provide me/us your documentation or the link (Meta ?) ? It would be very useful.

[Wikimedia-l] Research Committee

2014-07-16 Thread Nathan
Hi - copying this under a new subject that makes the topic more clear to anyone skimming their inbox. Beyond the edits made below to clarify the current practice, I was curious about the success and value of the RCOM in general. First, I'm not aware of how active the committee was in the past in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On historical event / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-16 Thread Kevin Gorman
Congratulations to all involved, this is quite an auspicious start to a project with a really remarkable amount of promise. Best, Kevin Gorman On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.com wrote: Looks really nice. Could you send an update, when the files are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Research Committee

2014-07-16 Thread Nathan
And... unsurprisingly, Aaron has reverted the changes I referred to above. Not with any explanation, of course, other than not true. Looking at the list of reviewed projects (where the review appears to constitute a small handful of questions on the talkpage), the RCOM has reviewed a total of 10

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 124, Issue 54

2014-07-16 Thread Jai Mata Ki
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