[Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi all, In the past months the Wikimedia Foundation has been writing an evaluation about Wiki Loves Monuments. [1] At such it is fine that WMF is writing an evaluation, however they fail in actual understanding Wiki Loves Monuments, and that is shown in the evaluation report. As a result on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Sam Klein
Hi Romaine, Are there other evals of WLM projects that capture the complexity you want? Perhaps single-community evaluations done by the WLM organizers there? Sam On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the past months the Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Claudia GarĂ¡d
Hi Sam, I am sure there are figures and stories that the various orgs collect and publish. But they are spread across different wikis and websites and/or languages. E.g. many of the FDC orgs are looking into ways to demonstrate these more qualitative aspects of our work (e.g. by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Claudia, I share your concerns about reducing subtle things to a few numbers. Data can also be used in context-sensitive ways. So I'm wondering if there are any existing quantitative summaries that you find useful? Or qualitative descriptions that draw from more than one project? Figuring out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Rodrigo Padula
Hello my friends, I didn't have the opportunity to organize a WLM contest yet, but I had the opportunity to organize the Brazilian WLE last year and I'm promoting that same contest here in Brasil this year again. Quantitative analysis are always easier to do than qualitative analysis. In that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Maria Cruz
Hi all, Thanks for the comments on the first two program evaluation reports. This is the kind of feedback we are looking for coming from the community, and for that reason, we want to continue this conversation and learn more about what goals and metrics make more sense to program leaders. As

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] GRAPH extension is now live everywhere!

2015-05-06 Thread Jonathan Morgan
This is wicked exciting. Thanks to everyone involved! - J On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote: Starting today, editors can use *graph* tag to include complex graphs and maps inside articles. *Demo:*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-06 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Yes, I think that this may be considered the central problem. It's easier to compare two different scenarios with a standard measure and to use kilos to compare apples and oranges, for instance. The problem is to understand that oranges will continue to be oranges after this measure, and apples