Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Southwood
One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that if you have a near miss incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal incident would be investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it is due, but so that the same situation can be avoided in the future. Organisations that fail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-04 Thread Pine W
I guess I'm not clear on whether you're asking about the Fundraising targets or the WLM/WMIT targets, or both. Can you clarify? My understanding from this email chain is that there will be a deconfliction of banner space via better scheduling next year. I think that someone suggested setting up a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Southwood
I was referring to the fundraising targets, which have been cited as a cause of the dispute. WMIT/WLM have explained at length their reasons for needing banners in September. I am in no position to comment on whether their analysis is correct or not . Fundraising has not been so forthcoming in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reimagining Wikimedia Foundation Grants

2015-09-04 Thread Siko Bouterse
Hi again, Thanks to the 100+ people who have shared feedback via the survey and talk page discussion so far! Reminder: The consultation period closes on 8 September 0:00 UTC. This is the last weekend to add your thoughts to the conversation before we begin to analyze all feedback and plan next

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-04 Thread Pine W
Thanks for that perspective Amir. I hadn't even thought of the mobile aspect. It would be great to have improved collaboration tools for working on mobile. Pine On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > 2015-09-02 3:15 GMT+03:00 MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2015-09-02 3:15 GMT+03:00 MZMcBride : > What I'm struggling with here is that Flow seems to have failed to > deliver. It hasn't met its goals of covering even basic talk pages and it > sounds as though further development work on Flow will now be suspended. > > From my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >>Much more importantly, Flow very much does cover basic talk pages. You can >>write a title and an OP and get people to reply. This has been working for >>many months already. This is my definition of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-04 Thread Lila Tretikov
First, thanks to all of those who worked in good faith, with patience and care for each other to solve this problem. I appreciate the level of compromise and empathy that was required from teams at WMIL and WMF. Thank you! Second, I want to highlight that this is a *our* issue, we are a community

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2015-09-04 Thread Ivan Martínez
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-04 Thread MZMcBride
Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >Much more importantly, Flow very much does cover basic talk pages. You can >write a title and an OP and get people to reply. This has been working for >many months already. This is my definition of "covering basic talk pages". > >Even more importantly is that you can write

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Southwood
Who set the targets that will now not be met, how were they decided, and when were they set? I must assume that WLM annual project was not taken into consideration by these planners. Cheers, P -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-04 Thread Pine W
Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations (like the WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community Resources / FDC) were working from different playbooks. But now that Fundraising has agreed to change their plans, I think we should give them some breathing room,