Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The CC-0 license was set up with the express reason that everybody can use our data without any impediment. Our objective is to share in the sum of all knowledge and we are more effective in that way. We do not care about market dominance, we care about doing our utmost to have the best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Gerard, Of course you can't license or copyright facts, but as the WMF legal team's page on this topic[1] outlines, there are database and compilation rights that exist independently of copyright. IANAL, but as I read that page, if you simply go ahead and copy all the infobox, template etc.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Peter Southwood
Wikipedia is not about infoboxes, they are (and are intended to be) a small to very small part of the article in most cases. Similarly, Wikipedias are not databases, so also without being a lawyer, I think your interpretation is wrong. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Jane Darnell
The only infoboxes I have touched on Wikipedia in relation to Wikidata are the ones I created with data from Wikidata with PrepBio and not the other way around. As far as I know there is no tool available to import Wikidata statements from Wikipedia infoboxes. This is why it took so long to get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Wikipedia is not about infoboxes, they are (and are intended to be) a > small to very small part of the article in most cases. Similarly, > Wikipedias are not databases, so also without being a lawyer, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Peter Southwood
Depending on how broad you want to stretch it, that covers an encyclopaedia or even a public library. Not particularly helpful. Also there is the matter of how much is taken from it in the form of data, there is likely to be much more data available in the articles than is or will ever be used

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have made changes to Grasulf II and I believe it is better because of it. If you find fault, you can do what I often do: make a difference.. Yes, I do edit Wikipedia occasionally based on the info that I find. Thanks, GerardM On 18 December 2015 at 12:04, Andreas Kolbe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > A single point of failure. > > > > Exactly: a single point of failure. A system where a single point of > failure can have such consequences, potentially corrupting knowledge > forever, is a bad system. It's not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > Andreas, you apparently did not read the following sentence: > "Of course, the opposite is also true: it's a single point of openness, > correction, information. " > Andrea, I understand and appreciate your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Footer link fix request

2015-12-18 Thread Richard Symonds
I've redirected the link to go to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines :-) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Andreas you have a point. The point you make that Wikidata is only considered for re-use is compelling. I edit very much but I do NOT use Wikidata to understand what data is there. It is a mess and not fit for humans. This however is not necessarily true. Magnus created the "Reasonator" and

[Wikimedia-l] What Wikimedia Research is up to in the next quarter

2015-12-18 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Hey all, I’m glad to announce that the Wikimedia Research team’s goals for the next quarter (January - March 2016) are up on wiki. The Research and Data