Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-12 Thread Habib M'henni
Dear Siko, Thanks for all your great work. We will miss you! Kind regards, Habib Le 12 février 2016 02:24:55 CET, Siko Bouterse a écrit : >Dear friends and colleagues, > >I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff >capacity >for the past 4 ½

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-12 Thread Tanvir Rahman
Siko, I am surprised to hear the news. I am pretty sure you will do an amazing job wherever you end up in you next venture. But Wikimedia will miss your good services. That is also the reason why you and your work will not be forgotten. I enjoyed working with you during our fellowship project. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Pine as you are talking about "self inflicting wounds" I take it you are not talking in your personal capacity. When is it enough for you? When are you going to talk about positive things, things that will move us forward. Why ask for blood and more blood? What is it that you hope to achieve?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
Gerard, I was waiting for this mail. For me personally, your complaining is achieving exactly the opposite of what you think. It sounds as if you'd much rather prefer to stick your head in the sand and hope things will blow over. "Move along, nothing to see here -- oh look! something positive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am not complaining. I point out that all this huha does not get us anywhere. I am not afraid to give an opinion and I am not afraid to be a contrarian when I think it makes sense. Yes, things happened that were not beautiful. They are not what upset me. What upsets me is that people like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Dear Siko, thanks for your work, and good luck on your future endeavours. Regards, Shlomi Fish On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:24:55 -0800 Siko Bouterse wrote: > Dear friends and colleagues, > > I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Robert Fernandez
Actually, you are complaining. I am against relentless negativity of the kind you see from many self-styled and self-important Wikipedia critics. I'd hardly put Pine in that group. The idea that Pine's measured and reasonable post could be described as "baying for blood" is ridiculous. On Fri,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-12 Thread Katie Chan
:'( On 12/02/2016 01:24, Siko Bouterse wrote: Dear friends and colleagues, I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff capacity for the past 4 ½ years, but I’ve now decided to move on from my role at the Wikimedia Foundation. Transparency, integrity, community and free

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the official announcement

2016-02-12 Thread Quim Gil
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Maggie Dennis wrote: > As some of you know, Community Engagement had a small realignment last > quarter. > Now that it’s further along, we thought it was a good time to > formally share. :) > ... >Technical Collaboration

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Risker
I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way, Gerard. I personally would like to feel more assured that the WMF is looking into the longer future and actively plannning for the day that donations no longer support a large staff doing lots of things. I am concerned today that the team specifically

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-12 Thread Jane Darnell
SO sorry to read this! My work with you on the IEG committee was one of the most inspiring experiences I have had in my years as a Wikipedian. I guess we will only learn after a few years what the effects were of some of the decisions we made ton that committee, but I like to think that some of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement office hour

2016-02-12 Thread Karen Brown
Hi all, Just a reminder that the Community Engagement office hour will be taking place today in approximately two hours (1900 UTC, 1100 US Pacific time) in #wikimedia-office. -Karen On Feb 10, 2016 1:22 PM, "Karen Brown" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The Community Engagement

[Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Liam Wyatt
This Grant document for a “Knowledge Engine by Wikipedia” is *specifically and overtly stating* that its purpose is to start work on an search engine as a rival for Google/Yahoo. That is the end goal of the project. Near near the bottom of page 10 it summarises the whole project as: "knowledge

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the official announcement

2016-02-12 Thread Edward Galvez
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Pine W wrote: > I've been stewing for awhile to sort out my thoughts about the search for a > new department lead for CE. Since I might be busy on Friday, and the choice > of the new department is likely a topic of broad public interest,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-12 Thread David Goodman
Rather, we should spend more, possibly several times as much. We need much wider participation, both for Wikimania and for regional conferences, and the only practical way to achieve that is to pay full expenses for all regular participants who want to attend. It should not be an elite event. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Risker
Well, I'm not sure about that, Anthony. By "consulted", I would mean something to the effect of "We're looking at applying to XX for a grant of $YYY to do ZZZ" and asking the Board if they would be likely to agree to accept such a grant if the application is successful. The grant application,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Anthony Cole
Anne, regarding: "Since the Board must approve acceptance of any donations over $100,000 USD, it seems to be obvious that they should be consulted and possibly should actively approve any grant applications where the dollar value sought is higher than that amount." I'm not sure that the board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement office hour

2016-02-12 Thread Anthony Cole
When one's available, would someone please post a link to the transcript? Anthony Cole On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Karen Brown wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The Community Engagement department will be hosting an IRC office hour this > Friday, the 12th of February, at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-12 Thread Gnangarra
some rules and guidelines are a throw back to earlier years and should be adjusted for rather than given significance over current practices. where once a donation of 100,00 was considered potentially as content influencing now its appreciated for what it is, the reality is that its not the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement office hour

2016-02-12 Thread James Alexander
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Anthony Cole wrote: > When one's available, would someone please post a link to the transcript? > > Anthony Cole Sure, Karen posted it on meta shortly after: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2016-02-12 James