[Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Michael Maggs
I haven't seen any mention on this list of this recent news: This year The Diary of Anne Frank entered into the public domain in the Netherlands, allowing millions of people around the world to read it for free. However, under U.S. law the book remains copyrighted, which prompted the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland
The situation concerning the copyright on Anne Frank's writings is quite complex - and it is not just US copyright which is causing problems. There appears to be some consensus that the Dutch text of the diary as first published in 1947 is now in the public domain in the Netherlands. But writings

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania

2016-02-16 Thread Henning Schlottmann
On 09.02.2016 16:40, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > When you cap Wikimania, who is not to come? Employees of the WMF and the chapters, other than WMF's community engagement team and maybe - just maybe - selected speakers as speakers, not as general participants. Wikimania is not for and about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania

2016-02-16 Thread Andrew Lih
Your comments are inaccurate, not useful, and completely antithetical to our principles. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > On 09.02.2016 16:40, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > When you cap Wikimania, who is not to come? > > Employees of the WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania

2016-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you have been to as many Wikimania's as I have been, you will know that it is exactly the interaction with staff that enables a lot of things. They have the consistency (in time) to make a difference, they are embedded in an organisation that has always cared about what it is that is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you, Sandra. So long as a court has not ruled, it is important to not give up without a fight. A. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland < rient...@wikimedia.nl> wrote: > The situation concerning the copyright on Anne Frank's writings is quite > complex

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15 days to create (at least) 15 biographies on notable African women!

2016-02-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent results, and thanks for updating it, Anthere! A. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: > Good evening everyone ! > > Results of the contest are published ! > > > At the end of the contest, > > 15 Anglophone teams (27 participants) > 18

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread geni
On 16 February 2016 at 14:43, Michael Maggs wrote: > It's worth noting, if only to increase awareness of the excessive length > (95 years) of some US copyright terms. > Thats hardly a US only thing though. The Leni Riefenstahl (yes that one) film The Blue Light will have a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread WereSpielChequers
I may have an unpopular view here, but when an author has been murdered, especially one so young, I find it distasteful to try to make that a test case re copyright. If Anne Frank hadn't been murdered she might well still be alive today, and presumably her work would still be in copyright. By

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland
I think you raise a very good point, Jonathan. Anne Frank's diary is not just any book. Paradoxically, the very fact that this is a special book by a special author is also the reason why many people - especially in the Netherlands - are uncomfortable about the recent and unexpected introduction

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Jonathan, We all realize how sensitive a subject this is. Not only because of the reasons you give, but also for the obvious reason that this is a highly influential and well known work we're talking about. If we were publishers trying to make a buck out of selling the work, I would agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Pharos
This is also a major work that a lot of people in the global Jewish community would feel is an important part of the public domain, and enhancing of public education on these topics. http://jewishfreeculture.org/sourcetexts/het-achterhuis-anne-frank-the-diary-of-anne-frank-amsterdam-1947/

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wmfall] February 2016 Lightning Talks

2016-02-16 Thread Pine W
Lightning talks start in about 5 minutes. Public link at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3fyCgBWvFc Optional IRC participation in #wikimedia-tech. (Note, not #wikimedia-office) Cheers, Pine -- Hi everyone, Just a reminder that the February Lightning Talks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Well.. I don't think if it is good point. I mean - I have rather feeling that if only she could, she would probably decide to release her diary to public domain. Or in other words - this text is so important to the entire humankind that its publishing should not be blocked by copyright law just in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Oliver Keyes
If she'd lived, her book _wouldn't be so important to the entirety of humankind_. You have a feeling about what she'd do about it? You're putting words in a Holocaust victim's mouth. For shame. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > Well.. I don't think if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-16 Thread Lila Tretikov
Hi everyone, As promised, here is the blog post we published earlier today: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/02/16/wikimedia-search-future/ . We are also having internal conversations on how we can improve communication and transparency to increase collaboration on ideation with all of you going

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Yury Bulka
WereSpielChequers writes: > I may have an unpopular view here, but when an author has been > murdered, especially one so young, I find it distasteful to try to > make that a test case re copyright. If Anne Frank hadn't been murdered > she might well still be alive

[Wikimedia-l] Improving transparency and communication

2016-02-16 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Lila, Thank you for the update and the pointer. As you probably noted, there have been several 'incidents' quickly following each other, which worry me, and probably you too. You're saying that you welcome feedback and discussion, and that you're having internal conversations on how to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Improving transparency and communication

2016-02-16 Thread Pete Forsyth
Lodewijk, Thank you for this suggestion. I drafted a proposal about a month ago for something like this, as a community-initiated project; however, I agree that something with explicit buy-in from the Board would be much better. Still, perhaps this draft will be useful; it is Proposal #1 (of two)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-16 Thread Dan Andreescu
Asaf, and everyone else, really, I guess the time for silence is over. I think that, just because Siko feels this way, now, about this wmf, and about this moment, doesn't mean that the next moment will maintain, integral, this same truth. It is the rest of us that get to craft the next moment.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Lilburne
On 16/02/2016 18:39, Lodewijk wrote: If we were publishers trying to make a buck out of selling the work, I would agree with you, and move on. However, that is not what we want to do as a movement. We don't try to take advantage, but we want to build upon works. We want to collaborate and stand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Dan Andreescu wrote: > > > Because we are not a tree, we are part of an ancient Aspen Grove. > *claps* I hope this thread ends on this forward-looking note. Well said, Dan. -- Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Product Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] The conversation is happening elsewhere :(

2016-02-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear colleagues, These are difficult and confusing times. Many of you are puzzled or receiving partial and possibly contradictory bits and pieces of news. As a service to the community, I feel I must point out that significantly more conversation is taking place -- for whatever reason -- on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The conversation is happening elsewhere :(

2016-02-16 Thread Adam Wight
Thanks for the note! Fwiw, I can't read that without a login. Feel free to urge the owners to make the thread public, if base crook even supports such a thing. On Feb 16, 2016 4:47 PM, "Asaf Bartov" wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > These are difficult and confusing times.

[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Africa 2015 results

2016-02-16 Thread Florence Devouard
Good evening everyone Another day... another announcement :) We closed yesterday the last vote session for winning pictures of Wiki Loves Africa 2015. We are happy to announce our winners https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015/Winners First picture is a very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-16 Thread SarahSV
The grant application to the Knight Foundation says that the "Search Engine by Wikipedia" budget for 2015–2016 is $2.4 million, and that this was approved by the Board of Trustees. [1] I can't find any reference to this in the minutes. Could one of the trustees tell us which meeting approved it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US Copyright Law Forces Wikimedia to remove Public Domain Anne Frank Diary

2016-02-16 Thread Lodewijk
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Lilburne wrote: > On 16/02/2016 18:39, Lodewijk wrote: > >> If we were publishers trying to make a buck out of selling the work, I >> would agree with you, and move on. However, that is not what we want to do >> as a movement. We