Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If anything they provide us a service. Anything they can do, we can do integrated. Anything they can do, we can learn from. Anything they prove works better is often a discussion the others have lost their firm footing. We are very much stuck in fixed thinking modes. It is why Wikisource is

[Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Anders Wennersten
What is WMFs position on Wikiwand [1]? is it a complement or a commercial run interface that is better that we can offer? Anders [1] http://www.wikiwand.com/about ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Magnus Manske
While this is true, there has been some improvement on Wikipedia. Desktop browsers now have the Wikiwand "media gallery" as the Media Viewer, and Wikivoyage (as a test platform) has the interactive maps. On mobile, things are even better; most of the Wikiwand mobile features are also in the

[Wikimedia-l] Patrolling photographs of living people

2016-03-31 Thread
Link: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BLP_overwrites A flag waive for this handy cross-project report highlighting when 'newbies' have overwritten a photograph of a living person or someone recently deceased. Technical problems caused the report to be offline for several months, it is

[Wikimedia-l] Flyover Country app will make your flights more interesting

2016-03-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
Interesting looking app; works offline to display info on what's below an aircraft, including Wikipedia article titles: http://www.gadgette.com/2016/03/23/this-app-will-make-your-flights-much-more-interesting-and-educational/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Peter Southwood
I agree with this. A permanently visible but reasonably small and unobtrusive edit button that opens into visual editor could be a way to do this. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Anders Wennersten
Thanks Dan. Besides the interface as such, where several have given, for me, interesting feedback, I wonder over the funding banner. Would not a widespread use of Wikiwand mean that readers no longer get the "begging" banner. And would that not mean a risk of decreasing funding? Anders

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Dan Garry
On 30 March 2016 at 23:39, Anders Wennersten wrote: > What is WMFs position on Wikiwand [1]? > There is no "official WMF position" on Wikiwand. The Wikimedia Foundation is quite a diverse collection of individuals with a range of different opinions. :-) Personally, I

[Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2015 | voting open

2016-03-31 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Dear Wikimedians, We are happy to announce that the 2015 Picture of the Year competition is now open. Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community. From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When we recognise that an editor has different needs we should provide editors with different tools. Readers in turn do not need all the tools of editors but we do want to convert them to editors. It does not follow that they will be enticed to become one by all the clutter. The objective is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread WereSpielChequers
I don't know about the WMF's position re Wikiwand, but I see Wikiwand as a more reader friendly way to view Wikipedia. We have far more readers than editors so in some sense this is a good thing. I can understand a reader being more interested in seeing the table of contents in the left hand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:24 PM, James Heilman wrote: > There output of our mainpage however is horrible > http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Main_Page On my LG L Bello 5.0" mobile phone it is worse than on desktop, with that large language selection box taking over all of the screen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Dan Garry
On 31 March 2016 at 10:27, Anders Wennersten wrote: > > Besides the interface as such, where several have given, for me, > interesting feedback, I wonder over the funding banner. > > Would not a widespread use of Wikiwand mean that readers no longer get the > "begging"

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF February 2016 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, March 31, 18:00 UTC

2016-03-31 Thread Praveena Maharaj
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. -- Forwarded message -- From: Praveena Maharaj Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:30 AM Subject: Invitation to WMF February 2016 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, March 31, 18:00 UTC To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Adam Wight
To second what others have said, I personally love the idea that a reading interface should include less editor clutter, until it is requested. There's a task for this, if anyone would like to help push that investigation forward: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106439 There's also some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Hey Gerard, I think you might have missed *my* point? Please note that I was nuancing something that Adam said that caught my eye. I broadly agree with your (Gerard's) position. You say: The notion that "people just want the content no matter how great of awful the skin is" is awful. I agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I think you have missed the point badly. Wikiwand is not about the communities and their pride. It is about what the Wikimedia Foundation stands for. It is sharing the sum of all knowledge. When we do a piss poor job and let Wikiwand steal the cake we have our priorities fatally wrong. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread Adam Wight
GerardM, I liked the way you said it the first time, > Readers in turn do not need all the tools of editors but we do want to convert them to editors. It does not follow that they will be enticed to become one by all the clutter. > The objective is therefore to invite them in a less cluttered way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

2016-03-31 Thread Dan Garry
On 30 March 2016 at 17:10, Gnangarra wrote: > Already possible to get a grid of images in commons > > Start in Category:Lichens > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens > then use the FastCCI tool https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:FastCCI > > It returns >

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CEE Spring 2016

2016-03-31 Thread Nikola Kalchev
Dear Wikipedians from all over the world, for 10 days now the arguably largest article writing contest has been taking place in Central and Eastern Europe - Wikimedia CEE Spring [1]. For 72 days Wikipedians from 29 communities [2] will be writing about the culture, history, important persons and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

2016-03-31 Thread James Heilman
I am fine with Wikiwand especially with their recent improvements. It is basically a different skin for our content. Not everyone needs to like the same style. The gear at the top gives a bunch of ways you can customize the styling as well. And it does link to use if people want to edit. As an