[Wikimedia-l] DARPA FOSSS programs of interest

2016-04-12 Thread James Salsman
Re https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/publicpolicy/2016-April/001335.html Should the Foundation mount a campaign to rescue BOLT from whomever took it down from the DARPA site? "The Broad Operational Language Translation (BOLT) program is aimed at enabling communication with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hour on IRC

2016-04-12 Thread Lydia Pintscher
> > Just a quick reminder that this is in about 1 hour. We'll meet in > #wikimedia-office on freenode IRC. > The log is now available at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20160412.txt for anyone who couldn't make it. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.m

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikipedia Community Schools Association Greece

2016-04-12 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am glad to share the recognitio of a new Wikimedia User Group: Wikipedia Community Schools Association Greece [1] Among their goals are increasing the participation of the hellenic wikimedians in the different Wikimedia projects, with a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DARPA FOSSS programs of interest

2016-04-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
> DARPA Yeah, what have DARPA ever done for us..? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What can we learn

2016-04-12 Thread Pine W
I like the idea of a boot camp or orientation for board members, which could be applicable to both affiliate and WMF boards. I believe that the standing Elections Committee, once it is operational, has plans to work on this, along with cultivating a list of good candidates for affiliate and WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DARPA FOSSS programs of interest

2016-04-12 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:54 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Re > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/publicpolicy/2016-April/001335.html > > > > Are there any reasons that trying to do this might be a bad idea? > > __ Because the WMF is not, at least as far as we know,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DARPA FOSSS programs of interest

2016-04-12 Thread Oliver Keyes
Off the top of my head: 1. Because we have absolutely no idea, from the briefs given, about the technological stack and how well it meshes with our existing expertise as a movement, or the WMF's existing expertise as a technical entity; 2. Because we have absolutely no idea, from the briefs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DARPA FOSSS programs of interest

2016-04-12 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 16-04-12 06:25 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Yeah, what have DARPA ever done for us..? For the benefit of those who do not sport beards[1], one of the most relevant things that is a legacy of DARPA - and certainly the one Andy is alluding to - is that of Internet itself (née Arpanet). -- Coren /

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread Anthony Cole
I agree with all of that, MZ. As to your questions: "Shouldn't we be applauding Google and others for helping us share our knowledge with the world?" Yes. "What size do you think the Wikimedia Foundation should be in terms of yearly budget and number of full-time employees? How much bigger or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread Anthony Cole
Good points worth repeating, though, jytdog. We're learning as we go here. COI is notoriously difficult to anticipate and manage. None of us, that I'm aware of, thought about - or at least discussed - the implications of his Google role when he ran for the board, and when it became too onerous to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread jytdog
This is kind of frustrating. Lila (speaking for the board) in her "Why we changed " message, identified falling page views (creating a threat of falling donation revenue) caused by folks like Google repurposing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread Anthony Cole
jytdog, regarding: "Going forward, there should be a) a clear disclosure of relevant outside interests and b) a pre-agreed COI management plan where those interests conflict with a Trustee's obligations, before Trustees formally step into the role." When you say "relevant outside interests" what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Anthony, in my opinion, the board should not discuss individual projects, at least when I was on the board we decided not to. The board looks at policies that are more general and global. The resolutions that the board issued, which do impact the projects, are (or at least were) always

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread Anthony Cole
Ugh. Sorry. I mean: should involvement in and advocacy for a particular movement initiative disqualify one from voting on motions related to that initiative? Anthony Cole On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Anthony Cole wrote: > jytdog, regarding: > > "Going forward, there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Anthony, in my opinion a board member should not foster his or her own pet projects. The WMF board members are leading a global movement. When everyone of them are fosting their own pet projects other projects may suffer. The board members should be beyond the single projects and give

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread Anthony Cole
Hi Ting. You say, "...a board member should not foster his or her own pet projects." It's just one vote out of ten (normally). If they can't persuade their colleagues, the motion won't pass. In the case of community-selected trustees, they were put there by people who know their enthusiasms and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-12 Thread
When a board member has special 'enthusiasms', it can be normal for the board to seek their view as an inside expert, however it can easily turn out to be a mistake if a trustee vote includes their vote, especially if the community wishes to see trustee voting becoming more transparent. This is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hour on IRC

2016-04-12 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Hey everyone :) > > We'll be doing another office hour on IRC for all things Wikidata on April > 12th at 4PM UTC. > https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16=00=0=12=04=2016 > has > your